Ray Alexander Clarets and Round heads

[trueedge]

[QUOTE=ga coondawg;4135627]My bro in law raises ray alexander clarets and they can really hammer on one... can't speak for the gameness of em.

we have some of those clarets crossed on toby collins rh this year that are just stags, but man they are pretty nice.


Ray alexander claret


That's a great looking claret. Thanx

[roundhead man]

I truly stand by what I have said about rays RH. IMO they have it all and if any of you live in SoCal next year we will be at a lot of the shows in Bakersfield,Delano, McFarland,down to Paris. So if your in this neck of the woods come out and take a look for you self. Like the saying go's opinions are like *******s everybody has one.
Lol
But you can't deny what you see with your own eyes

[bigdoghectic]

Originally Posted by roundhead man

I truly stand by what I have said about rays RH. IMO they have it all and if any of you live in SoCal next year we will be at a lot of the shows in Bakersfield,Delano, McFarland,down to Paris. So if your in this neck of the woods come out and take a look for you self. Like the saying go's opinions are like *******s everybody has one.
Lol
But you can't deny what you see with your own eyes

im in :-).... by the way i think i saw n another hread that u were from tha palmdale area i go to palmdale sometims to visit my girlfriends family i always wonder where the chickens were at cus i havent heard any crowing or saw a yard with any and dam i get board sometimes while im there

[roundhead man]

Hahaha there's one or two in Palmdale but Iam in littlerock. And we're all over out here. Let me know when your in town. Were are you from

[Gallero626]

Originally Posted by roundhead man

Hahaha there's one or two in Palmdale but Iam in littlerock. And we're all over out here. Let me know when your in town. Were are you from

what kind of lines of rh do have bro? i seen a farm last time on palmdale road with alot of barrels but no one was home i guess. i honked to see if anyone would come out so i just left...

[roundhead man]

Palmdale rd turn into hwy 138 Iam off the 138. Iam in littlerock,A good part of our program consist of lacy RH, we also have clarets, YLH. We actually got a new line of hatch and radio this yr they look real good only time will tell.

[Gallero626]

Originally Posted by roundhead man

Palmdale rd turn into hwy 138 Iam off the 138. Iam in littlerock,A good part of our program consist of lacy RH, we also have clarets, YLH. We actually got a new line of hatch and radio this yr they look real good only time will tell.

i was comming form phelan / victorville. and you could see the barrels from the rd. anyways diff subject youre rh can win pure in the sk?

[Small Timer]

The Alexander Claret and Roundhead's does not produce the high breaking lots of feet type fowl that everyone likes. They win with brains and the ability to end the fight with their cutting ability. These are boxer type side stepping fighting style that is not appealing to most. The Claret is usually over the Roundhead, which produces Medium station fowl at best. I must say I was a little disappointed when I first got them. It was hard to put my trust into something so different. I took a swing in the dark and showed a dozen going 9-3. These a very different fowl. If you choose these Claret/RH's you may need to be open minded. IMHO

[mm1]

I have Ray's Roundheads and Clarets. The roundheads are game if you let them cock out. If you cross the 2 you get better results.

[Gallero626]

how much do they go for direct from ray? or whose a famous breeder that has is rh?

[roundhead man]

@Gallero626 yes we show our RH strait breed in sk and they do great for us

@Small timer, I agree with you 100% I also believe this to be a big part of why a lot of people don't like them but not me I liked there style from the beginning I don't need the spectators to like my birds as long as they can win.

@Gallero626 direct from Ray 1000 for a trio,and 750 for a pair, 500 for a cock, and 250 for a hen
Just ordered 4 hens this yr

[mm1]

Guy's to be honest the broods I bought from ray where top notch. The only thing is I think he sold me brother and sister pairs. Beware if your going to buy from him.It could just be the genetics i dont know for sure. You can cross any of the broods over anything and produce really nice fowl. I prefer the yellow legged roundheads over the white legged ones. The white legged ones tend to get this weird sound after there crow when they reach about 1 year of age. Almost sounds a little watery. Had them tested for crd and the test results came back negative. Meds want get rid of it whatever it is. It will last for about 4 months and then it goes away. It may be that our climate is not suitable for them. Both times i have used the white legged roundheads for broods I had this problem with all there offspring. It's just in the roundheads. The yellow legged ones seem to be more hearty and have less isssues. The claret is pretty hearty and dont give any problems. Very smart roosters. I just use the claret to cross with the roundhead so I cant say alot about them other than the 2 make a nice cross.

[roundhead man]

Last I Spok with him he did not have YL Roundheads. You might be confusing them with the clarets he has YL and WL clarets. But I will call him this weekend and find out if he has YL Roundheads. And if he dose I know what Iam buying next. Lol

[mm1]

Originally Posted by roundhead man

Last I Spok with him he did not have YL Roundheads. You might be confusing them with the clarets he has YL and WL clarets. But I will call him this weekend and find out if he has YL Roundheads. And if he dose I know what Iam buying next. Lol

They come yellow and white legged peacombs. All my clarets come white legged and straitcomb. My Clarets look just like the pic that GA. coondawg posted.

[roundhead man]

I just got off the phone with Ray and like I said in my previous post he only has one line of lacy and they are WL. Now his lacy will throw an occasional YL but he dose not have two lines of lacy. And like I said before he dose have two lines of clarets a WL and a YL. Just to add a little bit I have been breeding his lacy and have yet to get a YL cock or hen. But I can assure you if I ever do I will breed it to see what comes of it. And I will let you know.
Just curious as to were you are getting your info from.

[doggs]

Originally Posted by roundhead man

I just got off the phone with Ray and like I said in my previous post he only has one line of lacy and they are WL. Now his lacy will throw an occasional YL but he dose not have two lines of lacy. And like I said before he dose have two lines of clarets a WL and a YL. Just to add a little bit I have been breeding his lacy and have yet to get a YL cock or hen. But I can assure you if I ever do I will breed it to see what comes of it. And I will let you know.
Just curious as to were you are getting your info from.

Hey, bro post some pics of the roundheads

[roundhead man]

@doggs go into my profile look up threads I've started and the tile is. Let me know what you think. In that post I have several pics of our fowl. If you can't find it let me know and I'll bump it up

[mm1]

Originally Posted by roundhead man

I just got off the phone with Ray and like I said in my previous post he only has one line of lacy and they are WL. Now his lacy will throw an occasional YL but he dose not have two lines of lacy. And like I said before he dose have two lines of clarets a WL and a YL. Just to add a little bit I have been breeding his lacy and have yet to get a YL cock or hen. But I can assure you if I ever do I will breed it to see what comes of it. And I will let you know.
Just curious as to were you are getting your info from.

Here ya go you can see for yourself where I got my info from. This was my second trip down to rays for broods. These are my 2 boys and my nephew in the pictures. Im the camera man. www.flickr.com/photos/buctech

[roundhead man]

I have not had the opportunity to go to his place but I spoke with him today that was what he told me. I to have purchased several times from him and like I said he's told me he dose not have a line of YL Roundheads. If you don't mind me asking what's your name I'll call him again tomorrow tell him your name and see if he changes what he told me today. If you want to know my name and call him your self send me a pm.

[roundhead man]

Sorry the last sentence was suppose to say if you want to know my name pm me. And then you can call him your self

[mm1]

Originally Posted by roundhead man

I have not had the opportunity to go to his place but I spoke with him today that was what he told me. I to have purchased several times from him and like I said he's told me he dose not have a line of YL Roundheads. If you don't mind me asking what's your name I'll call him again tomorrow tell him your name and see if he changes what he told me today. If you want to know my name and call him your self send me a pm.

If I remember right after thinking it thru I do believe ray told me the same thing he told you. My brother in law about croaked when he saw the first bunch of doddles I raised from my broods and insisted I call ray and find out why my roundheads where throwing yellow legs. He said there not pure roundheads they are suppose to be white legged. I called ray as he insisted and Ray said they would occasionally throw yellow legs. As i stated before my broods where white legged. I have heard others say that there broods would throw white and yellow legs. I will take the yellow legged ones over the white legged ones any day. Im gonna try to breed them away from the white leg myself. I have heard others comment on this forum about the yellow legged ones being the best. Do a forum search.

[mm1]

I also have his chocolate grays, old harold brown hatch line and bobby boles jap line.

[roundhead man]

Ya Ive heard the same thing that the YL offspring are just as good if not better than the WL ones. But like I said I've yet to get some YL offspring from any of the lacy blood. But if it's there it will come out sooner or later I practice line breeding and inbreeding so Iam sure it will pop out one of these days and when it dose I will see what they bring to the table, good bad or indifferent. I will find out.

You said you got some of the YL offspring as far as there Temperment how is it. And are they an offensive or defensive type of fowl

[mm1]

Originally Posted by roundhead man

Ya Ive heard the same thing that the YL offspring are just as good if not better than the WL ones. But like I said I've yet to get some YL offspring from any of the lacy blood. But if it's there it will come out sooner or later I practice line breeding and inbreeding so Iam sure it will pop out one of these days and when it dose I will see what they bring to the table, good bad or indifferent. I will find out.

You said you got some of the YL offspring as far as there Temperment how is it. And are they an offensive or defensive type of fowl

For the most part they are pretty gentle. I had one that was a little defensive but after a little handling he gentle down. I kept a yellow legged cock out to breed with next year and he is as gentle as they come. I think he actually enjoys the attention.

[Small Timer]

Ive had the Chocolate Greys crossed over the Claret and they won for me.

[mm1]

Originally Posted by Small Timer

Ive had the Chocolate Greys crossed over the Claret and they won for me.

Really! In what weapon? I never thought about crossing the two. I always like to cross peacomb over strait comb.

[mm1]

Originally Posted by mm1

Guy's to be honest the broods I bought from ray where top notch. The only thing is I think he sold me brother and sister pairs. Beware if your going to buy from him.It could just be the genetics i dont know for sure. You can cross any of the broods over anything and produce really nice fowl. I prefer the yellow legged roundheads over the white legged ones. The white legged ones tend to get this weird sound after there crow when they reach about 1 year of age. Almost sounds a little watery. Had them tested for crd and the test results came back negative. Meds want get rid of it whatever it is. It will last for about 4 months and then it goes away. It may be that our climate is not suitable for them. Both times i have used the white legged roundheads for broods I had this problem with all there offspring. It's just in the roundheads. The yellow legged ones seem to be more hearty and have less isssues. The claret is pretty hearty and dont give any problems. Very smart roosters. I just use the claret to cross with the roundhead so I cant say alot about them other than the 2 make a nice cross.

I need to clear something up. I said that he sold me brother and sister pairs. What i meant to say was I think he sold me a brother and sister pair which where the chocolate grays. All the others where fine. If he did i dont think it was intentional. Ray is a really nice person. Im not in anyway trying to run him down so please dont take it that way. Im still not for sure that this was the case. All i can say is that the more i inbreed the smaller and less body they have. My brood cock has always had a good body on him but its a struggle to keep a body on his offspring. He is also very gentle and his offspring are really aggressive. The brood hen is also very nice. very mild manner and double spurred and well built. What do you guys think?

[lui.g]

I also have his R.h. His clarets yl cock and wl hens his japs an his hatch...love them all have done great for me..ive gotten some yl rh come out of brother and sister and was impressed..also had some that i had to cull.but then again thats what the breeding beuty of it...breeding the best to the best. Not all fowl would be aces. My birds dont impres me because the spar super they impress me because they can cut an win...i

[mm1]

Originally Posted by lui.g

I also have his R.h. His clarets yl cock and wl hens his japs an his hatch...love them all have done great for me..ive gotten some yl rh come out of brother and sister and was impressed..also had some that i had to cull.but then again thats what the breeding beuty of it...breeding the best to the best. Not all fowl would be aces. My birds dont impres me because the spar super they impress me because they can cut an win...i

I think you said it best.

[mm1]

Pic of my Ray Alexander Griffin Claret Cock. See at www.flickr.com/photos/buctech