EVGBA: Eastern Visayas Gamecock Breeders Assn, Inc. PART 3

[sonaja782005]

Originally Posted by shanebo

Sonaja, Blackhawks, Ed thanks alot. It is always fun to show in Tunga, decent facilities and great local people, all the ingredients of a good time!!!! Great talking with Dr. P and his friends from the states and they provided great Tupa...;-) I was a little concerned showing 12 month old birds against cocks but they showed their worth, out of the 2 winners one payed the ultimate sacrifice and the other will be shown again next year....all in all a great time was had by my guys and myself.....I think Patrick showed the 2 best birds all night, smart, deliberate cutting birds, they paid our expenses....Thanks Patrick and thank your birds!!!!

SHANEBO

welcome sir...

hope to see you again in the derby... i have a video of clip you behind Dr. P.. hehehe will post it soon ..

[sonaja782005]

Originally Posted by pryabao

The above statements should have been presented to our annual membership meeting by the officers of the association. Since we never have one, here is the second best place to post this so members shall know.

Your correct sir...

It has been the past and present problem of the association...

Question to ALL members..

Are you willing to attend this meeting or send a representative?

[sonaja782005]

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Sir Perry, again pls post also other FSs forwarded to you...

the EVGBA Stag Series/Anniversay 2011and prior to 2011 [anything in relation to EVGBA hosted derbies Stag/Cock]..

Thank you so much Sir...

[edarellano]

Originally Posted by pryabao

2012 Banding Activities Expenses.

Disclaimer: I did not prepare this financial statement. I cannot claim nor verify its accuracy.
For your info only.

Thanks for posting actually, this FS was thoroughly discussed during the board meeting that followed and for TRANSPARENCY, the board urged me to post but I used my right as president did not post but rather emailed to sangkay Perry whom I think has more ideas on this. The handwritten THURSDAY and FRIDAY were my pensmanship during that meeting and that was Holy Thursday and Good Friday respectively.

EVGBA situation before the year 2012 no need to discuss again why we lost two(2) important men in our association pressing us to hold an election December 2011 but because of the usual quorum problem and the lacking of board members, we planned that to happen this year earlier supposedly but as per suggestion and as per the Constitution And By Laws, moved again to December 2012. Before that to happen, we got to have more members of the board from all sectors within the EVGBA area of coverage. Anyway, I said ealier on halt for a moment but actually ongoing(board members).

Meanwhile, let me express my own feeling as president, the way things happened and are happening and I don’t know what will happen next? Due to so many many things, I began to doubt myself if I can run the association in a TRANSPARENT way likewise, I began to doubt my trust on some members/officers, I am sorry to say that. Obviously, I SAY AGAIN we need changes in our officership you see, some people gone, some are still around but already passive that’s the reason why you can say I am the only one VISIBLE, if I go NOW this will make the story longer so let’s view some facts: 1. Due to budget control kuno, we relocated AGAIN our office and secretary to the residence of our then and newly appointed secretary. My problem here again as president, is the communication. We are giving the two EVGBA numbers to the secretary yet, most of the inquiries by the president cannot be replied. Countless times while the president was in Indonesia had to call long distance to the suppliers for some urgent matters, that could have been handled by the secretary, calling long distance is an expensive way especially if it is charged to EVGBA luckily however, not but to the president’s personal budget. We planned to replace the VPs signature as one of the signatories for our bank withdrawals, the president talked to the bank manager what to do and a very simple thing was relayed to the secretary and all the president has to do is to sign the last signature having all the other signatures collected already but nothing done. Look at NFGB the office is in Manila, the president is in Iloilo and all the other officers were scattered nationwide YET, every board meeting everything is on order, NOTHING IS MISSED! The result = very effective operation.

[edarellano]

Somehow, we can not do it in EVGBA why? you know the answers. 2. Due to budget again as you all know, our 2012 banding was done together with the bakbakan. Sangkay Perry has all the reports yes we made mistakes again, I suggest we will not blame anybody what we can do is to help how to cut cost for the same single event next year. Luckily, it was a single event only we must make sure that the multiple events for this year the so-called funds and assets are being used and abused will be completely eliminated.

Some old members gone or would like to go away from the association yes if you are happy doing it, why not. This is a challenge to the remaining members and NEW MEMBERS and of course to those who are planning to leave. What we need here is LOYALTY remember it’s very hard to form another association NFGB affilated so you guys have to continue our EVGBA. I am only a member of the other asscociation(of course NFGB member also) because my production is too much for EVGBA use only and because I love to fight them all but my loyalty is STILL WITH EVGBA. I enjoy breeding(and fighting of course) now so, whether I am a member or officer of any breeders association, it doesn’t matter I continue to breed in my own little way and I will still be around and would like to see the EVGBA keeps going. My last wish, one of the bakbakan champions for the year 2012 WILL COME FROM EVGBA so we can get 1 million pesos in prize so that we can start building our own office, my wish only by the way, because the way things are going, I doubt if we can give the FIRST EVER EVGBA Patronage Refund how will we cover up the deposits made by some members during the banding? if at the end not so big amount was deposited to our bank, so the PR is again on jeopardy, this is another CHALLENGE guys, let’s put the benefit of our doubts away. But first, our officers must be well-established stay focus we cannot even spend the 60,000.00 pesos budget from the NFGB I would not dare asking it only to be mis-spent because we don’t have a committee to oversee the fund! I am sorry guys.

[edarellano]

Originally Posted by pryabao

According to our by-laws, the annual membership meeting shall be held on the 3rd Monday of December. Our first stag derby is usually September. Since this year we banded our stag April instead of the usual March, I suggest that we hold our EVGBA first stag derby on the third Monday of December to coincide with the the annual membership meeting so there will be more attendees. Or amend our by-laws and move the annual membership meeting to the 3rd Monday of November instead of December and at the same time hold our first EVGBA Stag derby.

We should send out the Notice of annual membership meeting together with the proxy form to each member. Members who will fail to attend the annual membership meeting in person or by proxy or members who fail to field an entry on the First EVGBA Stag Derby shall be deemed waived his right as a member of the association and shall be removed from the roster of the association as certified by the president or secretary of the association. An updated list of members shall be submitted to the Security and Exchange Commission as certified by the secretary or president.

In this way we will not have problem with quorum and only the active breeders-members can join the policy making activities of the association as we chart our course of action.

Thanks for this sangkay and all the contents of this post will be considered. Let me fix first the communication problem that is existing in our office(kunohay) so that the Notice of annual membership meeting together with the proxy form to each member can be handled equally well. OUR BAKBAKAN ELIMS by the way is scheduled on NOVEMBER 10, 2012. Regards.

[pryabao]

According to our by-laws, the annual membership meeting shall be held on the 3rd Monday of December. Our first stag derby is usually September. Since this year we banded our stag April instead of the usual March, I suggest that we hold our EVGBA first stag derby on the third Monday of December to coincide with the the annual membership meeting so there will be more attendees. Or amend our by-laws and move the annual membership meeting to the 3rd Monday of November instead of December and at the same time hold our first EVGBA Stag derby.

We should send out the Notice of annual membership meeting together with the proxy form to each member. Members who will fail to attend the annual membership meeting in person or by proxy or members who fail to field an entry on the First EVGBA Stag Derby shall be deemed waived his right as a member of the association and shall be removed from the roster of the association as certified by the president or secretary of the association. An updated list of members shall be submitted to the Security and Exchange Commission as certified by the secretary or president.

In this way we will not have problem with quorum and only the active breeders-members can join the policy making activities of the association as we chart our course of action.

We are a breeders association. Right now our financial status and members participation is not that good. We all aim for higher price. But right now that is not realistic. No guarantee price or winner takes all is good for me. What is important is we have a venue to test our breeding warriors and camaraderie. We can rotate the venues of our derbies from Ormoc, Burauen, Biliran and Calbayog and celebrate it like a fiesta with matching lechon and foods.

We could also standardized and improved our derby expenses. We should negotiate for a better cockpit rental price. Cockpit owners should understand that we are promoting cockfighting as out cultural rights and tradition. We are not only promoting the association but also the cockpit and the whole region for eco-tourism. Oquendo gallera in calbayog charges P10,000 only for one day derby.

Salaries and wages also should be scrutinized and minimized to improve the bottom line. The association should also the one that should print standardized and pre-numbered gate ticket and plasada receipt with duplicate copy. The association treasurer should also be allowed in cockpit cashier/casador area as an observer for the association.

[shanebo]

Perry,
Thanks for posting the break down of the expenses, it helps for us to at least see how the 4-Cock Anniversary Derby went financially. With a profit of 5300 pesos in a 4 cock we should reconsider how we manage things. With that said, where is that 5300 pesos? Is there a bank statement that shows where it was deposited to the EVGBA account or did someone leave the lid off the cookie jar again? Also, Bakbakan 2011, where is the break down of the elims and semis, did EVGBA make money or lose again, we are 8 months past due on that statement. I remember back last year when people were throwing the VP and Doc Sonny under the bus because they weren't being transparent....it seems things haven't changed!!! With no accountability within EVGBA it is difficult to bring in new members....our opponents are thriving on our situation as I write, they are looking for ways to undermine us and we are giving them the perfect situation to do so. It seems that the bigger EVGBA gets the more EVGBA loses....maybe we should consider going back to the basics!!!

Sonaja...I was behind Dr. P most of the nite, I will be famous by the time you finish posting all your videos and thanks for videoing the fights, that must be the hardest thing in the world to do when you have an entry.

Dr. P we are opting out on the July 21st derby, I good friend here is promoting a derby July 30th in Tacloban, so we have an entry there instead.

Where is this Zenaidas resto and what time?

SHANEBO

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Hanggang dito muna. Lets hear some feedbacks

[sonaja782005]

Originally Posted by pryabao

Hanggang dito muna. Lets hear some feedbacks

just a question sir perry... up to what date (past) FSs do you have?

am not good kc in arithmetic kaya summary lng ay pwede na...

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2008 - 1. Annivesary Derby - gain or lose? how much...
2. a. Opening Stag Derby - same question (?)
b. Main - same ?
c. Clean-up - same ?

2009 - 1. Annivesary Derby - gain or lose? how much...
2. a. Opening Stag Derby - same question (?)
b. Main - same ?
c. Clean-up - same ?

2010 - 1. Annivesary Derby - gain or lose? how much...
2. a. Opening Stag Derby - same question (?)
b. Main - same ?
c. Clean-up - same ?

2011 - 1. Annivesary Derby - gain or lose? how much...
2. a. Opening Stag Derby - same question (?)
b. Main - same ?
c. Clean-up - same ?

2012 - 1. Annivesary Derby - gain or lose? how much...
2. a. Opening Stag Derby - same question (?)
b. Main - same ?
c. Clean-up - same ?

[pryabao]

I volunteer to compile and summarize them. Pero di pa ako tapos sumakit ulo ko. hehehe. I am posting as is first. Later when I finish compiling and summarizing will post more if its ok.

[edarellano]

Originally Posted by shanebo

Perry,
Thanks for posting the break down of the expenses, it helps for us to at least see how the 4-Cock Anniversary Derby went financially. With a profit of 5300 pesos in a 4 cock we should reconsider how we manage things. With that said, where is that 5300 pesos? Is there a bank statement that shows where it was deposited to the EVGBA account or did someone leave the lid off the cookie jar again? Also, Bakbakan 2011, where is the break down of the elims and semis, did EVGBA make money or lose again, we are 8 months past due on that statement. I remember back last year when people were throwing the VP and Doc Sonny under the bus because they weren't being transparent....it seems things haven't changed!!! With no accountability within EVGBA it is difficult to bring in new members....our opponents are thriving on our situation as I write, they are looking for ways to undermine us and we are giving them the perfect situation to do so. It seems that the bigger EVGBA gets the more EVGBA loses....maybe we should consider going back to the basics!!!

Sonaja...I was behind Dr. P most of the nite, I will be famous by the time you finish posting all your videos and thanks for videoing the fights, that must be the hardest thing in the world to do when you have an entry.

Dr. P we are opting out on the July 21st derby, I good friend here is promoting a derby July 30th in Tacloban, so we have an entry there instead.

Where is this Zenaidas resto and what time?

SHANEBO

First of all the meeting on Saturday at Zenaida’s is cancelled by me. The FS of the Anniversary Derby was emailed to me and I forwarded it to the secretary. There was nothing cash or profit from the Anniversary Derby for that matter given to me or deposited to my account for transfer to EVGBA. That was the story at the moment until sangkay Patrick claimed his SFOY and BOY cash prize and that was the time I knew that the profit from the Anniversary Derby was offset to sangkay Patrick's total prize. When sangkay Patrick claimed his 2nd Trophy the BOY in Ormoc City, he sent me a message that he cannot claim his balance cash prize(less the profit and other personal dues) because the VP(of course he is still one of the signatories pending the signatories formality in the bank) will not sign? So I said well, that’s the fault of the secretary why it took him so long to prepare the letter of request to change bank signatories. For the 2011 Bakbakan, this is another problem here the treasurer is not a member of our online BS and the pres had to meet both ends to secure the needed FS and other reports thus delaying our TRANSPARENCY business. I am sure the FS for the Anniv and the banding 2012 were emailed to sangkay Perry by me, I will check the FS for Bakbakan 2011 where it is. It could have been posted a long time already had the treasurer is online capable but I think he is but just always very busy?.

[edarellano]

There is one thing I forgot of my earlier posts, more on our communication problem: OUR SEC RENEWAL. Due to budget problem again, we did not hire an accountant to do this I let my wife did the initial procedures all this with prior arrangement with our secretary and treasurer to prepare the FS, we did everything in Cebu going back and forth to the SEC and paid the notary fee from my own until the need for the FS period, only to find out that the FS had not been prepared so catching the deadline, I have to make a compromise with our original accountant this time instead of the normal charge he claimed from us, I managed to negotiate for 5,000.00 pesos, this time of course charged na to EVGBA so he took over and the deadline for renewal elapsed so I asked the status. I found out not yet renewed because he had the same problem with the secretary he said was not responding to his required informations. So he was asking for additional charges because of the penalties and this and that, that time my blood pressure went high so I initially texted him, bai cancel na lang the transaction please return the 5,000.00 pesos to EVGBA I don’t care if the EVGBA SEC registration can be done this year or not, we will go on qulorum but he said it was already consummated having done all but only that last requirement that the secretary did not comply. So I changed my mind, I texted him again OK go ahead let me pay all the penalty charges from my own pocket. So, come on guys, I cannot do this alone if the REMAINING everybody is still around and willing to help, I think our problems will not be REPITITIVE in nature. Where can you find an association that only the president is visible(taken from sangkay Perry)?

Sangkay Perry,
Pareho tayo, masakit na rin ulo ko hex3.

[sonaja782005]

Originally Posted by pryabao

I volunteer to compile and summarize them. Pero di pa ako tapos sumakit ulo ko. hehehe. I am posting as is first. Later when I finish compiling and summarizing will post more if its ok.

aheheheh ganun ba... ok lng post mo na lng later ung summary with that format.. just the same pls post previous submitted FSs.. masilip lng namin sa net hehehehe...

[shanebo]

Perry,
Thanks once again for posting the break down of each derby, it helps to see where our short comings are. I am not an accountant by trade, but in my work I have to manage a petty cash fund that sometimes exceeds $50,000....My Boss has never and will never accept the word Various on my weekly petty cash report, there better be a receipt, photo or a HEAD. Just by taking a quick glance at the reports Perry has posted it seems that our biggest expenses are Salaries & Wages and Cockpit rental and of course those Various Withdrawals and Expenses. I think it's time EVGBA quit living in a dream of a 7-Stag 1 Million Prize and go back to the basics and try to work out the financial accounting problems that are plaguing us. A 7-Stag 1 Million Prize would probably the end of EVGBA....let's be real, we can barely break even in a 4-cock promotion.

I think we should hold our stag derbies in December, after Bakbakan. Let's keep our stag derbies simple and cheap.
1)One day 5-Stag derby and negotiate for a daily rental of the cockpit, if our so called home cockpit don't want to negotiate, there could be other options. First 5 fights drop at 1:30 pm, first fight 2pm. Keep the fights moving......
2) 3-Stag derby
3) 2-Stag fun derby-One LK fight and One SK fight...maybe even a potluck in the EVGBA lounge.

We have to walk before we can run, we have tried running before and it didn't work in our favor, so let's go back to how we started....having fun and testing our stags simple as that.

SHANEBO

[pryabao]

Originally Posted by shanebo

Perry,
Thanks once again for posting the break down of each derby, it helps to see where our short comings are. I am not an accountant by trade, but in my work I have to manage a petty cash fund that sometimes exceeds $50,000....My Boss has never and will never accept the word Various on my weekly petty cash report, there better be a receipt, photo or a HEAD. Just by taking a quick glance at the reports Perry has posted it seems that our biggest expenses are Salaries & Wages and Cockpit rental and of course those Various Withdrawals and Expenses. I think it's time EVGBA quit living in a dream of a 7-Stag 1 Million Prize and go back to the basics and try to work out the financial accounting problems that are plaguing us. A 7-Stag 1 Million Prize would probably the end of EVGBA....let's be real, we can barely break even in a 4-cock promotion.

I think we should hold our stag derbies in December, after Bakbakan. Let's keep our stag derbies simple and cheap.
1)One day 5-Stag derby and negotiate for a daily rental of the cockpit, if our so called home cockpit don't want to negotiate, there could be other options. First 5 fights drop at 1:30 pm, first fight 2pm. Keep the fights moving......
2) 3-Stag derby
3) 2-Stag fun derby-One LK fight and One SK fight...maybe even a potluck in the EVGBA lounge.

We have to walk before we can run, we have tried running before and it didn't work in our favor, so let's go back to how we started....having fun and testing our stags simple as that.

SHANEBO

Right on point. I fully agree. Back to the basic, make it simple and progress at our own speed. In other words, swallow what we can chew. Yes, In financial reporting, there is no room for vagueness or generalization. It must must be clear and understandable. Or else it will attract suspicion and mistrust. It defeat the purpose of full disclosure and transparency.

[shanebo]

Originally Posted by edarellano

So, come on guys, I cannot do this alone if the REMAINING everybody is still around and willing to help, I think our problems will not be REPITITIVE in nature. Where can you find an association that only the president is visible(taken from sangkay Perry)?

Totally 100% agree Ed....we need more visible officers and members

[sonaja782005]

Originally Posted by shanebo

I think we should hold our stag derbies in December, after Bakbakan. Let's keep our stag derbies simple and cheap.
1)One day 5-Stag derby and negotiate for a daily rental of the cockpit, if our so called home cockpit don't want to negotiate, there could be other options. First 5 fights drop at 1:30 pm, first fight 2pm. Keep the fights moving......
2) 3-Stag derby
3) 2-Stag fun derby-One LK fight and One SK fight...maybe even a potluck in the EVGBA lounge.

1. i wud still prefer a 2-stag elims.. to be held @ the ff. venues..

1 in Samar, 1 in Burauen [Norhtern Leyte areas], 1 in Biliran and 1 n Ormoc..

[oops my bad.. may mura pala sa Tunga.. re: rental]

2. 3-stag finals at the venue to be decided by the new BOTs...

just my 1 cent...

[shanebo]

Originally Posted by sonaja782005

1. i wud still prefer a 2-stag elims.. to be held @ the ff. venues..

1 in Samar, 1 in Burauen [Norhtern Leyte areas], 1 in Biliran and 1 n Ormoc..

2. 3-stag finals at the venue to be decided by the new BOTs...

just my 1 cent...

My thoughts on a one day derby is the expenses it takes to hold elims in several different venues. No reason to hold any elims here in Biliran, very few EVGBA members and some aren't active. If you look at the break down of the 5 stag last year it actually made money holding a 2 stag elims then a 3 stag final, but in the same venue. Sol, what are your thoughts on the expenses it would take to hold 2 stag elims say in: Samar, Burauen and Ormoc
Just a couple things that come to mind:
1) Cockpit rental for elims in 3 different locations
2) 3 different working committees(salaries/wages, meals, misc.expenses etc.)
3)
4)
Help me out on what other expenses could occur...

Even if we step back and make it a 4 stag I think we would money ahead.We need to get back to the basics....

Something I have brought up before in discussion was that EVGBA could help offset travel expenses for those entries traveling from Samar or other far places to entice them to participate more.

Anyone else please post your thoughts......

BOT....can someone please post who they are nowadays and maybe we can get as many as possible together for a meeting in the near future.

SHANEBO

[sonaja782005]

Originally Posted by shanebo

My thoughts on a one day derby is the expenses it takes to hold elims in several different venues. No reason to hold any elims here in Biliran, very few EVGBA members and some aren't active. If you look at the break down of the 5 stag last year it actually made money holding a 2 stag elims then a 3 stag final, but in the same venue. Sol, what are your thoughts on the expenses it would take to hold 2 stag elims say in: Samar, Burauen and Ormoc
Just a couple things that come to mind:
1) Cockpit rental for elims in 3 different locations
2) 3 different working committees(salaries/wages, meals, misc.expenses etc.)
3)
4)
Help me out on what other expenses could occur...

Even if we step back and make it a 4 stag I think we would money ahead.We need to get back to the basics....

Something I have brought up before in discussion was that EVGBA could help offset travel expenses for those entries traveling from Samar or other far places to entice them to participate more.

Anyone else please post your thoughts......

BOT....can someone please post who they are nowadays and maybe we can get as many as possible together for a meeting in the near future.

SHANEBO

sir...

obviously, we look at the rental first...

1. in Samar = i dont know..
2. in Burauen = per cock is 10K + 3K [generator].. so if 2-stag elims is probably 23K..
3. in Ormoc = same in Bureuan cgoro..

alternatve for our area is:

4. in Tunga = 11K, if am not mistaken for 1 derby affair [day]...

another alternative..

5.for those coming from far flung areas, is to refund their traveling expenses or part of it, say 50%,60%, or more based on prevailing rates of pakyaw system in the area... [ to be discussed and approved by the new BOTs]

[shanebo]

Originally Posted by sonaja782005

sir...

obviously, we look at the rental first...

1. in Samar = i dont know..
2. in Burauen = per cock is 10K + 3K [generator].. so if 2-stag elims is probably 23K..
3. in Ormoc = same in Bureuan cgoro..

alternatve for our area is:

4. in Tunga = 11K, if am not mistaken for 1 derby affair [day]...

another alternative..

5.for those coming from far flung areas, is to refund their traveling expenses or part of it, say 50%,60%, or more based on prevailing rates of pakyaw system in the area... [ to be discussed and approved by the new BOTs]

I think if we can find venues similar to Tunga and the day rental would be a big help in limiting our expenses. If I remember correctly EVGBA held a 3 stag at Tunga a couple years ago and it seemed like it was a success, many entries if I remember correctly. If we could hold the 2 stag elims in smaller venues such as Tunga then blow out the finals in Burauen or Ormoc would be nice. Just things to think about while there is still time....

SHANEBO

[shanebo]

Come on...there has to be more than 3 members that give a !@#$ about what and how things are going and how stag season should be handled. We have to come up with a better way to make more than 5300 pesos in a derby promotion.....more inputs are needed!!!!

SHANEBO

[Donato.Ago]

Originally Posted by shanebo

Come on...there has to be more than 3 members that give a !@#$ about what and how things are going and how stag season should be handled. We have to come up with a better way to make more than 5300 pesos in a derby promotion.....more inputs are needed!!!!

SHANEBO

We should have one day elimination round for EVGBA and NFGB Bakbakan… pot money for EVGBA and pot money for those who want their entry into NFGB Bakbakan.
The elimination round 3-Stag Derby for those who qualify 4- Stag Final for EVGBA and semi-final for NFGB Bakbakan on the same day also...7-Stag Derby for EVGBA 2012…NFGB Bakbakan???

[tarantula]

good day to all..

i suggest 5-stag 500k price.
2-stag elims,3-stag finals.
venue:calbayog city (to determine whose really loyal to the group)

sangkay perry,
i take full resposibility sa accounting sa banding.
simply lang sagot ko dyan 15days po tayo nag band this year
compared last year na 10days lang ata yun.kulang pa yang 40k na expenses
sa 2011 banding na ginawa ni bebot hindi pa na sama expenses sa last day party
na si islo ang humawak ng panggastos dun.pati bill namin sa zenaidas hindi naisama
kasi si cholo nagbayad nun.

yung expenses at salary kinompared nya pero yung collection this year at collection last year hindi nya linagay na malaki rin tinaas.PARANG MAY HINANAKIT ATA SI BEBOT SAKIN AH.hehe.

ANG TOTOO KUMITA ANG EVGBA NG 38,042PESOS SA BANDING SA BAKBAKAN!!!
111,010-collection
+94,000-patronage refund distributed
-60,000-cash advance
-20,000-salaries
-86,986-expenses
=38,024pesos

bai ed,
so,totoo ang sabi ko sayo na ang banding ay kumikikita pa hindi yung sabi ng iba dyan sa gastos lang ang banding kaya hindi tayo nagband sa local..pwedi malaman kung sino nagsuggest na hindi tayo magband sa local bai?

shane,
thanks for d compliments bro!
ill be using stag again in tunga 2-cocks fiesta derby this coming august 10.
good luck to your entry in tacloban bro....

[sonaja782005]

Originally Posted by Donato.Ago

We should have one day elimination round for EVGBA and NFGB Bakbakan… pot money for EVGBA and pot money for those who want their entry into NFGB Bakbakan.
The elimination round 3-Stag Derby for those who qualify 4- Stag Final for EVGBA and semi-final for NFGB Bakbakan on the same day also...7-Stag Derby for EVGBA 2012…NFGB Bakbakan???

another suggestion for the EVGBA 5-stag 2012

1. 2-stag EVGBA Elims..

then..

2. 3-stag EVGBA Finals thats combo with the 3-stag Elims of the NFGB Bakbakan..

.... 1 Swing for 2 Holes ....

[edarellano]

Guys salamat sa lahat na inputs, busy ako for the last few days kulang ang 12 hours per day ko na working schedule kanina nga 9 hindi ako nakapagcoffee time anyway, life must go on and re-EVGBA Stag derby issue, what I can do is to print all your inputs and bring one-by-one with equal consideration on the meeting. I am sorry that I canceled the meeting today actually it was due to time constraints that we already distributed our derby schedule for the year 2012 AND IT WAS THE 1 MILLION as suggested before but then again, some more suggestions and more analysis we cannot do it on the realistic point of view so the question WHY WE DON'T HAVE THE STAG DERBY SCHEDULE YET is because of that situation. I will arrive October 3 and because according to our by-laws the meeting has to be presided by the pres or the vp, WE WILL HAVE A MEETING ON THIS the following day OCTOBER 4. Please bring more inputs for discussion for me a MAIN

EVGBA 2012 5-STAG DERBY 2-STAG ELIMS AND 3-STAG FINALS
Dates: October 12-13, 2012 Burauen or Calbayog or Tacloban or Valencia, Ormoc City
Pot Money/Entry Fee: 7,700.00
Guaranteed Prize: 500,000.00 or more + Trophy
Accepted Weights: 1.8 – 2.2 kilograms

is my suggestion. But back to the basics, that means we will have Opening and Clean Up derby as well? more inputs guys. If we have both then the above suggestion can be changed, suggestion lang naman.

But please don't forget, we have to do it with a LIVE STREAMING so please don't forget also at the moment, we only have that in Nadongholan, Ormoc City.

So please consider all other things but all the inputs again has to be discussed during the meeting and everybody is invited. See you guys.

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Sangkay Patrick adi man akon analysis. Lugi kita EVGBA kon tama akon pag kaintindi. So correct me if I am wrong Pres Ed. Our legitimate income is only the membership fee of 16,000. Ang An Bakbakan banding collection of 111,010 is for the account of NFGB. An Patronage refund dire man liwat income san EVGBA but disbursement of the fund from NFGB. Am I right Pres Ed na ang Bakbakan banding collection of 111,010 and deposit of 65,100 we have to remit to NFGB?

As you can see above, Our income from membership fee is 16,000 against sa expenses of 106,986 resulting to a loss of 90,986 sa aton banding activity.

As a result also, we have a liability/ payable to NFGB in the amount of 132,110 and EVGBA deposit liability of 22,000.

My question to Pres Ed, why did we spend 106,986 for the banding activity? Is it not a NFGB bakbakan activity so therefore they should have shouldered the expenses for this? Please enlighten me.

Thank you mga sangkay.