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Old October 23rd, 2005, 10:17 PM   #1
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Kung Kayo Ang Pamimiliin

may 2 akong broodcock. isang 2 time derby winner na RH (medyo mababa ang station), subok ko na rin ang mga anak nya sa PIT dahil nagpapanalo naman pero MABABA ang station nila (i mean yung mga anak) at isang pure dink fair sweater, matipunong broodcock, maganda ang station pero hindi ko pa nasusubukan ang anak nila kung magagaling. ito ang tanong ko ngayon, may 2 akong blended sweater na wala pang partner, saan sa tingin ninyo ko dapat ipares, sa RH o sa sweater ?
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Old October 23rd, 2005, 10:28 PM   #2
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doon ako sa una mong binaggit na broodcock..........medium station...........pero yan preng jlbs ang pirmis ang paa.........sa cutting.........mas mainam ang accuracy nyan.lalo nat buo ang parteng baywang nyan.........for me i learned from different breeders .........not to use broodcocks na payat sa parteng baywang.

pag sobrang tangkad........sabog ang paa
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Old October 23rd, 2005, 11:26 PM   #3
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dalawa?

di tig isa sila....

pareng joel..ang isang pair para sa tested breed..so sure na talaga yon..ang isang pair ay para experiment...sayang naman kung di gamitin...so di pa rin masayang breeding year mo..

meron kang pang diin at panggasta at makahanap ka pa rin ng golden nick sa experiment mo..

yon lang maiambag ko...

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Old October 24th, 2005, 05:38 AM   #4
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kung sa derby gagamitin lahat diba mas maganda ang high station kasi low station dehado ka sa labanan kasi holos lahat mataas ang sinasali....
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Old October 24th, 2005, 05:42 AM   #5
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depende sa timbang yan........ang manok may pakpak..........hindi haba ng paa ang magdadala dyan...........it is the cutting accuracy that counts.

sa boxing.......pwedeng tukuran ng malaki ang maliit.......
sa sabong parehas na aakyat sa ere yan.............pero hindi haba ng paa ang magdadala dyan...........may mga medium station na agile at mabilis pumanik sa ere.depende sa laro ng manok.
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Old October 24th, 2005, 05:53 AM   #6
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Buhawi

Sir,

Bakit sa hackfight pag-inuulutan ng mataas ayaw lumaban!! Yung iba halos parehas na ng taas laki ayaw pa...Ang gusto nakakataas sa laban!! Kasi pag nagsabay sa itaas ng paloan lamang ang mahaba ang paa..Sa basaan lamang din ang mataas kasi ang mababa sumusukot pag mataas ang kalaban...
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Old October 24th, 2005, 07:41 AM   #7
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jlbs72

talagang minsan dumarating ang panahon na wala kang
itulak kabigin sa gagawin mong brood cock lalo na sa
tingin mo patas ang kainaman nila :innocent:

ispar mo na lang at yun manalo gets the bacon

or try mo yun sweater dahil hindi mo pa nasusubukan
what the heck ! waste few months ng breeding season
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Old October 24th, 2005, 06:11 PM   #8
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most of breeders...........pagdating sa breeding materials.........ay medium station ang pinipili nila.andiyan daw ang cutting.ang mahahaba ang paa..........karaniwan pang laban.pero kapag breeding materials..........sa medium station ka.sa derby ay timbangan naman ang laban..........pwera na lang kung hackfight ang laban.
sa kumpiyangan sa ere........hindi komot mahaba paa lamang na siya.nasa timing ng panik yan sa ere.........kung sino ang unang naka- ibabaw
sa magagaling na bloodline.........makikita mo ang mabibilis na paa.........karaniwan sa mga medium station.........medyo late ng kaunti na i swing ang mahabang paa........
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Old October 24th, 2005, 07:11 PM   #9
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KUNG AKO PAPAPILIIN.

MEDIUM TO MEDIUM HIGH OK NA PARA PAG DATING

SA CUTTING ACCURACY MAGANDA AT MATIBAY SA DRAGFIGHT

SA NAKITA KULANG SA MGA HIGH STATION MEDYO NAHIHIRAPANG

PUMALO KAPAG DIKITAN NA.

AT YUNG ROUNDHEAD MONG MABABA TRY MONG IBREEDING SA

MATAAS NA INAHEN. iM SURE MERONG LALABAS NA MATATANGKAD.
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Old October 24th, 2005, 07:43 PM   #10
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napansin ko nga kahit mababa itong mga anak ng RH ay pasok naman kung sila ay pumalo. i mean pag nagsabayan sila sa taas at sa matangkad napalaban, lagpas minsan ang palo ng kalaban pero yung sa kanya pasok. pero yung last fight ko sa CF stag, hindi lumagpas yung palo ng kalaban, yung sa akin ang hindi umabot dahil sa iksi ng paa. kaya ayun, pilay, hehehehe... buti nakahabol, hehehe...
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Old October 24th, 2005, 07:47 PM   #11
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Old October 25th, 2005, 06:29 AM   #12
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hindi lahat pero

kapag ang breeding materials na nakuha mo ay medium station.....ay malamang dumaan na sa linebreeding...baka inbreeding pa.......may pagka puro na............makikita mo naman sa ibabatong mga anak........may uniformity kahit papaano

pero kung sobrang laki........sobrang tangkad.........malamang crossbreed...........battlecross.......ang nakuha mong panlahi.........ang mga hybrid.........kadalasan......they have size improvement
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Old October 25th, 2005, 06:42 AM   #13
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what to choose?

Bro jlbs,

Para sa akin ang Broodcock's Station DOES NOT play much, But the HEN does a BIG BIG PART OF THE GAME OF GAMEFOWL BREEDING!!

Tama ang obserbasyon ni pareng buhawi..na yang cock mo ay galing iyan sa inbreed/line family.. more so kung ang backcrossing na ginawa sa kanila ay on the COCK SIDE..

Ang masabi ko lang sa iyo..CHOOSE the BEST HEN.. Body Conformation at lahat na kung pwede hehehe.. But yang RH Cock mo which is a 2x Derby Winner..proves HIS WORTH in the PIT..and is more worthy to be rewarded too in the BROODPEN.. Be Patient, Bro.. sa first offspring niya select the best pullet out of him and wait for the 2nd generation of HIS..tsaka natin isabak sa bekbeken or bakbakan or sa ating paderby sa UBBA..

Pasok ka naman sa Chatroom..hehehe

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Old October 25th, 2005, 07:17 AM   #14
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ang pure na df sweater na may magandang katawawan at station at may palo ay mainam na gawing broodcock walang duda dito .
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Old October 25th, 2005, 03:13 PM   #15
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nakow mahirap iyan ikaw ng bahala pag aralan mong maigi ang pros and cons
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Old October 25th, 2005, 03:21 PM   #16
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ahhhhh sir jlbs,

para wag ka ng mag isisp pa eh nandito lang ako with open arms.

sabihin mo lang kung kelan mo padala, ako na bahala dyan.
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Old October 25th, 2005, 04:09 PM   #17
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try & error

para medjo meron kunswelo doon na sa lahing mananalo, iyong 2x winner mo.

dapat subok ang lahi na ibebreed mo...
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Old October 25th, 2005, 05:27 PM   #18
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pre

RH dahil my tittle na. Dhil ngayong breeding season
sweater & brunner RH ang susubukan ko. Mga
cockmate my nkaxpirience na ba inyo sa cross na
ito kung maganda ang resulta? Thanks....
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Old October 25th, 2005, 07:29 PM   #19
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sa aking mga nabasa yun daw sweater ni carol nesmith ay may dugong roundhead. kaya siguro maganda ang lalabas niya baka iyan na ang sweater killer
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Old October 26th, 2005, 03:26 PM   #20
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tama po si sir buhawi pag derby ang labanan di porke mataas ka eh lamang kna remember parehas ang timbang nyo, sa observation ko lang ang mga medium station pag pumalo eksakto, ang mga High station madaling mapilayan.
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Old October 26th, 2005, 05:28 PM   #21
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Boss Joey,

Long time no talk ha. dito ako ngayon sa santiago, isabela. may pinagagawa sa akin sa branch namin. kita tayo sa UBBA derby.
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Old October 26th, 2005, 09:23 PM   #22
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Sir sa opinion ko lang.

ngayong breeding season iyong unang broadcock gamitin mo next season iyong pangalawang broadcock ang gamitin mo. At dyan mo maconcluded kung sino sa dalawa ang magaling na broadcock at total crosses yan pag sexy ang mga inahin mo at sa tamang station may possibility na magbigay magandang station din na anak...........salamat.........:rbounce:
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Old October 26th, 2005, 11:04 PM   #23
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in my opinion i suggest to breed first your roundhead to those blended sweaters....why....usually the first hatches is more vigorous, healthier and taller....dito mo na siguro masosolusyonan yong hinahanap mong station. bukod pa sa breeding na ito papasok ka sa crossing kaya hybreed na ang palabas mo (stationwise)

sa 2nd hatch naman pwede ng ipares mo ang dink fair mo dun sa 2 blended sweater para ma intensify yung sweater characteristic sa mga lalabas na mga sisiw mo, kung mag nick dito na papasok ang recurrent reciprocal breeding or line breeding sa sweater side.............sound interesting.......... :rbounce:
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Old October 26th, 2005, 11:28 PM   #24
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sangkay jlbs72

maganda cguro dalawa na sila puro nman yata sila magagaling at lalo na ung na una na derbie winner ikaw pa ang may sabi na subok mo na ang mga offspring:wink2:
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Old October 27th, 2005, 01:33 PM   #25
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for me unahin mong ipares sa rh na tested na then sa next breeding batch mo try mo sla sa sweater
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Old October 28th, 2005, 02:48 AM   #26
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Another side: As i understand you have 2 blended sweater hen right? I will named it pullet A & B.

This breeding season mate RH to pullet A and also DF to pullet B on the next season do it vice versa. As the two pullet are full sister maybe it has only a slite difference on there offspring.

Thank you and hope can help..........
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Old October 29th, 2005, 07:38 AM   #27
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salamat sa mga inputs guys.
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Old October 29th, 2005, 01:26 PM   #28
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baka may napusuan ka na kasamang jlbs72 sa mungkahi nila
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Old October 30th, 2005, 02:13 AM   #29
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tama ka mr suwabe. post ko pics next week.
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Old October 30th, 2005, 12:38 PM   #30
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sige kasabong jlbs72 hintayin mamin ang posting mo at gud lock sa breeding mo
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