Rampuri Asil - Page 19 - Sabong, Cockfighting and Gamefowl Posting Pit

Asilish1 · December 22nd, 2011, 10:37 AM

I have bred my Asils both ways as well. The only thing I'd say if grading to Asil hen side is... to select the Asil hen with good station other wise the offspring will turn out short and bulky like Asils.

cnucum · December 22nd, 2011, 12:14 PM

As to what I know, Mr. Tonio Romulo bred some of his best 1/2 rampuri asil grades from inbred rampuri asil hens and a multi-winner American cock...

Jim is right though, my 1/2 tend to be a tad slower as the get older, but I guess that goes even with full american fowls, get a little slower once they come older. In actual fight, it's not much of a disadvantage (speed) as they cut really well, a couple hits at most is what all they need...

cnucum · December 24th, 2011, 11:44 AM

Pre Rodel, this is a full brother of the one you have and the one I have (posted their photos a few post back)... This is with a 'friend' in Catanduanes...

8 month old very inbred Black Rampuri Asil (15/16th) stag

I am happy to see these full brothers and along with their sisters have good station and size, even though they are really inbred now, guess I did something right in the selection...

Shooting for 31/32 this off season, will use 3 full-sis of these stags back to their dad...

Asilish1 · December 24th, 2011, 11:53 AM

That's nice Chris! yes, it shows, you did a good job with selection considering they are very inbred.

sagario · December 24th, 2011, 12:19 PM

really nice chris... looks like his father now with his solid black plumage..

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Originally Posted by cnucum

Pre Rodel, this is a full brother of the one you have and the one I have (posted their photos a few post back)... This is with a 'friend' in Catanduanes...

8 month old very inbred Black Rampuri Asil (15/16th) stag

I am happy to see these full brothers and along with their sisters have good station and size, even though they are really inbred now, guess I did something right in the selection...

Shooting for 31/32 this off season, will use 3 full-sis of these stags back to their dad...

cnucum · December 24th, 2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Asilish1

That's nice Chris! yes, it shows, you did a good job with selection considering they are very inbred.

thanks, I try to select the best daughter to breed back to their dad, always looking for the good solid body that is better stationed and conformation than the rest, not necessarily the tallest. they also are healthier each generation and lately with the confirmation of my friend rodel, lays more eggs also...

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Originally Posted by sagario

really nice chris... looks like his father now with his solid black plumage..

thanks, I am really not concerned at the moment about the plumage much, as long as they have the usual traits I like in them, like solid rugged body, health, power and accurate punches. I try to improve their size, station and speed with each generation, hoping that I keep the good traits along with those... from what I see, they are getting there. all I need now is to breed more "hens" like these to breed to some blacks and hopefully they will be what I bred them for...

their dad started out solid black also with some whites in the underhackle, but as he got older, he molted out with a little red in the hackle and saddle feathers... but the solid black ones really look "cooler" though...

this was their dad when he was 2 years old:

this was him when he was 4 years old:

this is him now at 6 years old:

competitor · December 24th, 2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cnucum

pre rodel, this is a full brother of the one you have and the one i have (posted their photos a few post back)... This is with a 'friend' in catanduanes...

8 month old very inbred black rampuri asil (15/16th) stag

i am happy to see these full brothers and along with their sisters have good station and size, even though they are really inbred now, guess i did something right in the selection... :d

shooting for 31/32 this off season, will use 3 full-sis of these stags back to their dad...

very nice!....no doubt you did a very good job in your selection pre chris.....keep it up!

the_archangel · December 25th, 2011, 01:18 AM

really beautiful cnucum!

cnucum · December 25th, 2011, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by competitor

very nice!....no doubt you did a very good job in your selection pre chris.....keep it up!

thanks pre... hope we can continue to make good selections thru the succeeding generations...

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Originally Posted by the_archangel

really beautiful cnucum!

thanks sir arch...

Happy Holidays to all!

competitor · December 25th, 2011, 06:30 PM

[QUOTE=cnucum;3949811]thanks pre... hope we can continue to make good selections thru the succeeding generations...

we will surely try our best.....

merry christmas to each and everyone!!!

thanks sir arch...

Happy Holidays to all!

blade-X · December 26th, 2011, 12:42 PM

video 2011 12 25 14 47 56 - YouTube

here's the xmas video of my rampuri-henny chicks. can you help me identifying the gender of the chick (nearest).. til now i'm still confused with his/her gender. hehe. he/she has bulky body and the biggest(height and size) among them..

thanks.. Merry Christmas to All!!!

sagario · December 26th, 2011, 01:08 PM

for me hes a male... very nice..

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Originally Posted by blade-X

video 2011 12 25 14 47 56 - YouTube

here's the xmas video of my rampuri-henny chicks. can you help me identifying the gender of the chick (nearest).. til now i'm still confused with his/her gender. hehe. he/she has bulky body and the biggest(height and size) among them..

thanks.. Merry Christmas to All!!!

weapon-X · December 26th, 2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by blade-X

video 2011 12 25 14 47 56 - YouTube

here's the xmas video of my rampuri-henny chicks. can you help me identifying the gender of the chick (nearest).. til now i'm still confused with his/her gender. hehe. he/she has bulky body and the biggest(height and size) among them..

thanks.. Merry Christmas to All!!!

I agree bro blade-X.. male nga..

blade-X · December 26th, 2011, 06:28 PM

thanks for your clear and asil-expert eyes sir james and weapon-X.. it's hard to determine the gender of orientals at very young age, unless they crow. LOL. also, my rampuri grades are the chicks of my very dominant(size, feather color, gameness) hennie hen.

i've talked to some asil breeders and they experienced some male chicks were not banded and some females were banded by banding team because of their very confusing looks like the combs, wattles and feathering..

but 100% sure is... THEY WILL CUT in the pit.

competitor · December 26th, 2011, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by blade-x

thanks for your clear and asil-expert eyes sir james and weapon-x.. It's hard to determine the gender of orientals at very young age, unless they crow. Lol. Also, my rampuri grades are the chicks of my very dominant(size, feather color, gameness) hennie hen.

I've talked to some asil breeders and they experienced some male chicks were not banded and some females were banded by banding team because of their very confusing looks like the combs, wattles and feathering..

But 100% sure is... They will cut in the pit.

niel,
his size alone will tell you that he is a male....even his tail feathers are so long already to be a female....goodluck raising them rampuri asil grades.....

blade-X · December 27th, 2011, 10:56 AM

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niel,
his size alone will tell you that he is a male....even his tail feathers are so long already to be a female....goodluck raising them rampuri asil grades.....

thanks kuya.. now im confident that i have 2 rampuri-hennie stags by february. i want to create a new strain of hennie with the infusion of rampuri. now i know how the solid line like the rampuri gives big impact in some crosses. the almost "purity of the genes" of this asil can withstand the inbreeding as also proved by the well-known breeders.

here is the new video of the father of my chicks against the much bigger and taller dom(with a dash of asil blood). sorry for using 2 megapixel camera phone.

video 2011 12 25 14 21 50 - YouTube

competitor · December 29th, 2011, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by blade-x

thanks kuya.. Now im confident that i have 2 rampuri-hennie stags by february. I want to create a new strain of hennie with the infusion of rampuri. Now i know how the solid line like the rampuri gives big impact in some crosses. The almost "purity of the genes" of this asil can withstand the inbreeding as also proved by the well-known breeders.

Here is the new video of the father of my chicks against the much bigger and taller dom(with a dash of asil blood). Sorry for using 2 megapixel camera phone. :d

video 2011 12 25 14 21 50 - youtube

"dumbo" does spar very well niel....he posses the trait i like in a fighting cock....you know what it is....

cnucum · December 31st, 2011, 11:41 AM

new set...

1/2 Black Rampuri Asil 1/2 White Irish Whitehackle @ 7 months old...

one of these pulled the tie cord off and killed one of his full bro, what a waste...

competitor · January 1st, 2012, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cnucum

new set...

1/2 black rampuri asil 1/2 white irish whitehackle @ 7 months old...

one of these pulled the tie cord off and killed one of his full bro, what a waste...

now that is so frustrating pre chris....you are right,what a waste.

harry · January 1st, 2012, 11:14 AM

[QUOTE=cnucum;3948663]Pre Rodel, this is a full brother of the one you have and the one I have (posted their photos a few post back)... This is with a 'friend' in Catanduanes...

8 month old very inbred Black Rampuri Asil (15/16th) stag

nice one sir i like this one nice station perfect for a broodstag for grading

cnucum · January 1st, 2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by competitor

now that is so frustrating pre chris....you are right,what a waste.

yes it is, I loose too many fowls this way, might as well re-think the cording area as I mentioned to you in another thread...

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Originally Posted by harry

nice one sir i like this one nice station perfect for a broodstag for grading

thanks sir, he is with a friend now in Catanduanes and will be bred to his signature hatch line, so I am really excited for him. yes they are bred to produces grades that are already good stationed even at 1/2...

This is their full brother that I left for myself...

Sorry not a really good photo...

tonio · January 1st, 2012, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cnucum

one of these pulled the tie cord off and killed one of his full bro, what a waste...

A few years back, I had one get loose from a stag pen during a storm and he killed two beautiful stags twice his size, he went on to win in an Araneta stag derby.

2year old rampuri hen

Diamante · January 1st, 2012, 09:20 PM

sir mod cnucum,,,,

i have repeatedly read about asils, asil grade breeding, etc in the net but i could not fully understand the need to have an asil blood in our breeding.
i myself got an asil hen, bred it with my best white stag, the offsprings, almost all of them, came out like a broiler table chicken, who just eat and eat and eat and not wanting to fight at 7, 8 9 month old!

maybe i got the wrong asil hen that is not for cockfighting but for the kitchen

good for tinola!

cnucum · January 2nd, 2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tonio

A few years back, I had one get loose from a stag pen during a storm and he killed two beautiful stags twice his size, he went on to win in an Araneta stag derby.

2year old rampuri hen

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...o/IMGA0103.jpg

sir Tonio, it's really frustrating sometimes, new cord, 10-12 inch steel peg and still, some of these asil grade stags will either pull the peg out or break the cord and then have a fight, usually 1, both or more chickens involved will be dead or disabled...

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Originally Posted by Diamante

sir mod cnucum,,,,

i have repeatedly read about asils, asil grade breeding, etc in the net but i could not fully understand the need to have an asil blood in our breeding.
i myself got an asil hen, bred it with my best white stag, the offsprings, almost all of them, came out like a broiler table chicken, who just eat and eat and eat and not wanting to fight at 7, 8 9 month old!

maybe i got the wrong asil hen that is not for cockfighting but for the kitchen

good for tinola!

sir SPSP,

I guess that is why a lot of people shy away from grading orientals to their westerns... Went out and got them selves one and had a bad experience from it... Usually it's because they did not get a "suitable" oriental blood...

The 1/2 rampuri asil will usually fight to death very early if you keep them together in a small area... you can spar them as early as 4.5 months onwards, depending sometimes also on the western your grading them to of course...

regards...

sagario · January 2nd, 2012, 04:29 PM

this 1/2 rampuri 1/2 stuart ylh guy got loose from ranging area and killed one older stag on the cord...

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Originally Posted by cnucum

new set...

1/2 Black Rampuri Asil 1/2 White Irish Whitehackle @ 7 months old...

one of these pulled the tie cord off and killed one of his full bro, what a waste...

tonio · January 2nd, 2012, 10:57 PM

1/2Oregon Asil 1/2 Rampuri over pure Ramupri hens

Experiment: The stag is out of a 10x naked heel winner Pakistani cock over a pure rampuri hen

competitor · January 2nd, 2012, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cnucum

yes it is, I loose too many fowls this way, might as well re-think the cording area as I mentioned to you in another thread...

thanks sir, he is with a friend now in Catanduanes and will be bred to his signature hatch line, so I am really excited for him. yes they are bred to produces grades that are already good stationed even at 1/2...

This is their full brother that I left for myself...

Sorry not a really good photo...

yes pre chris,you might as well carry on with the original plan....

i think i know that other rooster on the background....

nice specimen pare chris!

tonio · January 3rd, 2012, 12:01 AM

spar video

Rampuri vs Pakistani X Rampuri (much younger)

IMGA0220 - YouTube

competitor · January 3rd, 2012, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by tonio

spar video

rampuri vs pakistani x rampuri (much younger)
imga0220 - youtube

two heavy punchers.....power at its best....nice vids tonio!

cnucum · January 3rd, 2012, 12:04 PM

sagario, very nice stationed stag... it's really a pain in the back side when they get loose, they do a lot of damage...

pre rodel, the stag on the background is a 1/2 rampuri 1/2 whitehackle 7 months old, they are the "airport back" brothers... hehehe

sir tonio, looks like your infusing other asils to bring their size up and height for the naked heel fights you want to join? I really like the spangled rampuri hen that is pearl legged...

sisters to the rampuri stag I posted up...

sorry, again not really a good photo...