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Old December 11th, 2003, 09:23 AM   #1
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Question maintenance feeds

gusto ko lang maghingi ng payo sa mga kasamahan natin kung anong mixture ng grains at pellets ang maganda para pangmaintenance sa 6months old stag onwards para bumuka na rin ang katawan o balikat.

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Old December 11th, 2003, 12:00 PM   #2
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ang sa akin special conditioner grains plus pellets which is a mixture of 3 parts thunderbird classic maintenance, i part duck layer pellets and 1 part calf manna. the grains to pellets ratio is 50/50. routinely babad sa tubig yung grains. ok yung mixture sa stags, pati peas ubos. ok sa buka yung 7-8 months stag ko.
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Old December 24th, 2003, 04:09 AM   #3
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Feeds

Pellets ang pinakamabuting source ng breast muscles. Use pellets with 20%protein and mix with equal part of grain mixture(mais, trigo, malta and beans etc). Grains are somewhere from 12 to 14%protein so when mix equally with the pellets, the resulting protein% is about 15 - 16%. This is a good maintenance feed for your fowls. When conditioning fowls, all you have to do is increase the protein % to about 18% by either adding dog food, fish protein, beef meat and liver.
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Old December 28th, 2003, 04:38 AM   #4
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Wash-out. Tapos purgahin mo na.

Enertone lang.Aprubado ko na ito.2 x day feeding @ 30 grams per feed.

Suplemento mo na lang ng B-50/2 forten 4 x a week ( optional pa nga ito dahil ika mo eh stag pa lang ). V-22 pwede na rin @ 1 tab daily pwede din para menos. Masisiyahan ka sa hipo at lakas ng manok mo.

Siyempre training din kailangan baka naman magkasapola manok mo.
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Old December 28th, 2003, 08:01 PM   #5
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Pag-asa Haven

Grain mixture (mais, trigo, malta & beans etc.) Grains are somewhere from 12 to 14% protein.

You've written etc... Suppose if you will mix soy beans which is about 40% protein, What would be the make up of grain mixture with etc? Just asking bro.

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Old December 29th, 2003, 11:48 PM   #6
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Soy Beans

Soy beans are high in protein but it was found that ceratin chemicals called trypsin may cause toxicity sa fowls. It's advised that soy beans shd. either be boiled or roast before feeding to fowls. The protein content of soybeans is around 27% so you may do your analysis on the proportioning to attain the desired protein level. Salamat ng marami sa inyong lahat.
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Old December 30th, 2003, 12:40 AM   #7
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That's true dude! excessive amount of trypsin may cause toxity sa fowl. Napunta tuloy sa soybeans ang topic. hehehe

soybeans grown in cold area tend to lower the protein percentage about 25 to 27%. Soybeans grown in warm soil and a long growing season promote higher protein. kaya sinabi ko about 40%. In recent research umaabot pa pala hangang 46 to 48%. I mix a little amount of soybeans and give to each bird during moulting season only at least twice a week.

Thanks Pag-asa haven, Happy New Year bro!

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Old December 30th, 2003, 07:18 AM   #8
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Try using mixed feeds that cost less yet effective. It may not be as popular as thunderbird products but just in case you would like to experiment on other brand, try using strike power pellets.
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Old January 2nd, 2004, 02:09 AM   #9
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raw soy beans is 25 to 27% protein (over,under). Soy bean meal is 42 to 44 %(hulled) and 48% dehulled. Untreated soy bean is high in protease and phytate which are antinutrient and and is toxic to all the livestocks. These enzymes are trypsin inhibitors that interferes in the digestion of dietary proteins. Trypsin is needed to chop up amino acids to be digested as dietary protein and the presence of high phytates inhibits the production of trypsin in the pancreas and therefore is an antagonist.
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Old January 2nd, 2004, 04:52 AM   #10
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correction, I mean phytate is a protease and trypsin inhibitor. Thanks.
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Old January 5th, 2004, 10:39 AM   #11
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kung gusto mong bumuka agad ang katawan ng manok mo ay pakainin mo sya ng high protein power pellets. damihan mo ang ratio ng pellets sa grains. for a month, siguradong bubuka ang katawan ng manok mo.

kung gradual naman ang gusto mong pagpapakapal ng katawan ng manok mo ay pakainin mo ng ordinary pellets at regular grains will do.
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Old January 6th, 2004, 07:42 AM   #12
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bumili ka na lang ng 1klo pdp at isang klo concentrate at haluin mo.Hindi kailang ng mahal na feeds sa maintainance.Bro subok na ito at hindi ka pa mahihirapan.thanks
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Old January 6th, 2004, 09:25 AM   #13
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Wink 6 mos. old pataas ( maintenance feeds )

Pigeon pellets, Corn & Conditioner grains. heheheh.... simpleng timpla lang!

For maintenance vit. try belamyl inject .3cc every 15 days and Laktamino drops.

Pagdating ng 9 ~ 10 mos. pwede mo ng itupada yan.hehehehe....
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Old January 6th, 2004, 04:14 PM   #14
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ito yung maintenance feed ko for the last 5yrs.

50% pigeon pellets, 25% crack corn and 25%grains. maganda din ang hipo ng mga manokis ko.
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