Kung kayo ay kukuha ng breeding materials, kaninong breeder kayo kukuha?

"Big time breeders won't part with their breeding materials". If this stands true, paano makakasiguro na ang kukunin mo or ibibigay sa iyo ay mismong breeding materials na ginagamit ni big time breeder?

Some say "go thru their records" pero what if sinabi na niya sayo na "these are my breeders, you can choose from them" without showing any records?

Do you guys know of an honest breeder that will go out of his way to give you some of the best (if not the best) he's got?

[kogmohon]

ako kuya...very honest

[swallow]

The best materials are usually acquired through a lot of friendship, and a fee. The best will never be given free of charge. Breeders can give you good materials but not their best, unless you have already establish a good relationship with them. Likewise, they would never part with you their best birds on your first purchase because they want to know how you would care for their birds. Even if they sell their trios at 60K-100K, believe me you will not get their best birds... maybe their 2nd best or not at all.


Just my thoughts

[grey/dom]

u can get it from outgoing breeders....u never know what you got is his best...look for breeders who quit breeding...their aces are in the last line...of selling...

jmoho

[taggy]

kay kogmohon ka na, nagpapatutuo na

ke master breeder, mr. Peter Uy

he doesn't fight, kaya ma guarantee mo na d reject.:lol:

[kogmohon]

taggy...don't try to assasinate me here while you are hiding with
your handle...if you have something against me say it to my face.
i can accomodate you fair and square anytime anywhere...pm me:angry:

[TAGAVILLASIS]

:hippie: :hippie:

swallow

thanks for the comment

actually that's what i'm afraid of. people like me would like to purchase from a particular breeder because of the way we see their chickens win. but then again, we could not expect to produce chickens the way we want them to be or the way we expect them to burn the pits because they are just good but not the best???

what then if i don't have the luxury to purchase fowls every now and then, or simply said i could only purchase once every decade, how could someone like me possibly befriend a bigtime breeder?

so what should we expect from our hard earned money?

just seeking advice...

[gamecock96]

When rebel brought us to Lancy Dela Torre's farm, I was very impressed with his birds. Very very impressed. And i have been to a lot of farms.

Al

[TAICHUNG]

theres nothing to be afraid of, as long as you know how to select the goods, you can turn trash into gold. just my two cents

[spoiled17]

music master,

1st what muna line ang gusto mo?then you select the one who is breding the bloodline at the same time the winning %......lets say sweater cross...i recomend sir Boy Marzo....
Honest man...very accomodating.....2nd ko marerecomend si Boss Many Berbano.....one of the breeder who have lots of breeding material Direct From american Breeders....TRy this two fine gentelman.....For sure dika nila lolokohin...hope naktulong ako.:rbounce:

[abu_ehman]

kung magsimula ka ng maganda palahian siguruhin mo lang ang bloodline nito at fighting style ng iyon magiging foundation. at saan nagmula ang bloodline nito...kung sa akin lang ang gusto kong mga breed ay galing kay BPZ BOY PRIMALION...magagaling ang mga material niya sa subok na rin sa wsd at mga hackfight..

[beakheel]

for starters i recommend to buy a tested battle cross trios to a breeder you choose, let say a sweater/gilmore trio from one breeder who's customers are winning in majority of THEIR fights.

try to scout in the cockpits ask those handlers, entry owners na nakitaan mo ng magandang laban, kunyari tanong mo sa kanya kung saan galing ang manok habang ginagamot o habang tinatanggalan ng tari. tingnan mo ang marking para pag punta mo sa breeder ay kilala mo na ang target mong bibilhin.

nasabi kong battle cross trios dahil di katulad ng pure trios na kailangan mo pang humanap at mag eksperimento at dadaan ka pa sa guess work. maraming naliligaw sa ganyang simula at marami kang guguguling panahon, pera at higit sa lahat ang frustrations ng hit and miss.

kanino naman po pwdeng kumuha ng materyales..khit by phone order.. tnxs for info..

[joekris]

i agree with beakheel, try breeding battlecrosses. if you do this medyo maliit ang chance na magkamali ka sa breeding mo. here are some of the breeders that i have dealt with:

nene abello- very high quality fowls, kahit 2nd or 3rd rate mabili mo mataas pa din quality nito. kahit fake binigay nya sa akin sweater( i found out later it is a 3/4 kelso 1/4sweater pullets).
nagpanalo pa rin mga anak nila.

francis lumunsad-good fowls, but be carefull. sabi imported yung binenta nya pullets sa akin, local pala. pinalitan lang ng wingbands.

liza galore- being a regular buyer of their class c fowls, and knowing john melendres i bought 1 pure karachi stag. good results.

charlie reyes/jing reyes( JCR BLACKWATER)- real blackwater fowls. but when mr. reyes died nahinto na ang farm. this is where i got my good broodstocks.

joey lapid/pete rodriguez- joey sells honestly. he sells almost all their fowls. of course not the foundation stocks of their farm.

redgamefarm-just got the dink stag. dpa alam kung ok!

[joekris]

gerry escalona- got a dan gray stag this year, still breeding him.

bruce barnett- got his sweaters, ok din resulta.

from a friend and breed my own champions....

[emanon]

musicmaster,
it depends on how much your budget is. just pm me.


emanon

[chrisjr]

Chris Nesmith of Blackwater Farm, he's such a good and honest breeder

[pitgods]

Don't expect to get the best from the bigtime breeders. Dahil mahaba ang pila sa mga class A nila.

[benjaminabrigo]

dito lang sa site na ito makahanap ka ng good quality fowl.

joekris

its nice to hear that you still manage to mention these breeders in a very civilized manner even if they haven't been honest in dealing with you.

[kogmohon]

joekris...you got the gooduns man...

[Rab45]

Saan ka sa Batangas City?

[joekris]

musicmaster,

thanks, coz thats the way it should be. breeder na rin kasi ako. before wala pa ako alam sa manok, charge to experience na mga ganitong bagay. last month i even went back to francis and got some local pullets.

kogmohon,

thru the years i have culled the fake and kept the best. mahal na kasi patuka.

Rab45,

dito lang ako sa P. Zamora St. ang farm ko ay sa Brgy Sampaga. you know anybody here?

[KNACK808]

basta magbayad kalang ng sakto kay dink fair or johnny jumper

[rodmar]

you have guts!

papano mo nga pla na laman na fake yong sweater na naibigay sayo and yong kay francis na pullet na d pala imported!
did some one tell you that...?

i like your attitude bro,,i hope i can be like you!!!

Keep it up!!!!!

[joekris]

thru friendship and hard earned experience!

joekris

i was wondering why are you not importing fowls directly although its very obvious that you could? can you please share the reason why?