Imported Boston Roundhead

[Maning]

correct me if iam wrong ang alam ko boston roundhead and allen roundhead comes yellow legs and lacy roundhead comes white legs.nakita ko kase yung broodcock ni lance dela torre na pure boston roundhead which is yellow legs and i also read sa mga magazines articles tunkol sa mga different roundhead,,God bless

YFIS

Ironman

Iron man. mayroon taga New England , sa may Massachussets ang breed niya ay pure Boston Roundhead LOUIS COLBY ang pangalan, according to him Boston Roundhead comes both white and yellow legs. May add siya sa grit and steel mag. kung minsan.mayroon siyang e-mail add. di ko lang matatandaan, pero nasa malapit sa Boston ang farm , kung saan nagoriginate ang Boston Roundhead..

paano ba nabansagan ng boston roundhead ang linyang eto?anybody here knows the story?? share naman jan?hehehe...

[edwin]

Boston Roundhead article from BATTLECOCK MAGAZINE as written by Henry Estolas.

Origin of Boston Roundhead.
In 1864,John Harwood was head stevedore at East Boston docks for the Cunard Steam Ship Company. In that year one of the streamers brought over from England a trio of gamefowl. The address and shipping bill of this fowl was lost. The company kept the fowl for three months and gave them to Harwood. He paid the shipping charges. Harwood gave the fowl to his friend Ned Gill,who breed and fought them. They called this gamestrain the Gill Roundheads or Boston Roundheads. They were light red fowls with black breast,more or less streaked with hinger. The hens ,light wheaten color. All had YELLOW legs. The imported trio had small ROUNDHEADS, pea combs and heavy feathers (same features of an Allen Roundheads if you noticed).
After Ned Gill died,John Mc Coy of Marblehead,Massachussetts got some of the Gill fowl and crossed this with John Stone"s fowl. The progeny from this mating went to Frank Coolidge and from him to Mr.Duryeas. Mr Duryeas Boston Roundhead has been one of the strain used for breeding the mean and viscious Sanford Hatch. Also ,Frank Shy infused a fine Boston Roundhead from M.J.Bowen in 1933 for this Narragansett strain.

www.pitmaster.com/tambak1 and click to roundhead(Allen)

Have a Happy New Year,everyone.

[Bty Hunter]

This is the history i've been looking for. I'm a Boston RH fan , colorum pala ang mga Boston RH namin hehehe mga white legged. Pero loves ko pa rin sila.:teeth:

[edwin]

Bounty Hunter,
Pare Boston Roundhead and Allen Roundhead are two of my favorite roundhead breeds also pero lamang ng konti ang Allen kasi hayop sa taas at maganda ang weaving sa lupa.
Two years ago nag dominate ito sa mga 5 cock MAIN sa California at binansagan pa ngang Sweater killer.
Dalawang Cyberfriends and alam kong may breed na nito si Battlegear at Corps Commander.
Sa akin white legs,yellow legs or green legs basta nagpapanalo ay gusto ko.:wink2:

Happy New Year and Good Luck to everyone.

[rhhoney]

Edwin,

Thanks for the very informative piece. More Power to you mate!

I won this broodcock in a Sagupaan Feeds raffle last June. We were told by PA's men that this is an imported roundhead. Lacy, or Boston or Allen roundhead? I have no idea. You be the judge.

same broodcock...

Bro.

I like your attitude. Ika nga ni Mr. Frank Shy who's name is quoted in this thread

"Names don't win games"

Roundhead, squarehead, yellow leg, whiteleg, greenleg, hatch, lemon, hulsey etc.....

If you can tell that a chicken will win on the basis of these terms baka wala nang sabong kasui malalaman na natin kung sino ang mananalo by establishing kung aling Kulay o pangalan ang magaling....

ika rin ng isang yumaong sikatr na politiko na kabario natin eh
"Sa inyo na ang maganda, sakin na ang magaling"

Basta keep records of which fowl you win with, how you breed and care for them...just keep track...kahit bansagan mo pa ng "Talunan Strain" yan by name eh kung magaling talaga eh mananalo't mananalo yan...

Point of clarification lang mga Bro.

Nalimutan kong i-address yung reply ko kay kasamang Bounty Hunter.

Natuwa lang ako sa sabi mong "Colorum pala ang lahi namin, pero love ko parin sila"....

TUMPAK....eh sa nananalo naman eh ...

[Bty Hunter]

Pago talaga ako sa sinabi mo. It doesn't matter talaga kung anong name breed basta nga at nananalo..kaya nga yung mga 7/8's namin sa taon iba na ang itatawag..tatawagin ko silang---HUNTING RED's hehehe for personal gratification! Aba sobra ng tribute dun sa originator pag "Boston" pa rin ang tawag samantalang minumuta kami para lang maayos yung lahi!:lol:

Isang malaking toast at bottoms up sating paniniwala kabayan!!!

One simple question lang ang dapat itanong...Considerng the exact science of genetics.

Can anyone claim that for example, a chicken bred by Sanford Hatch in his time and another chicken hatched today bred as a "Hatch" would have the same genetic makeup as the one bred by Sanford Hatch himself ?.... this after several years/generations of breeding and interbreeding by so many people simply calling their breeder line Hatches but only God knows where and when exactly they came up!!!

Napuna ko na may NJ location ka Bro. Nasa taas niyo lang kami by 8-10 hrs road trip....GTA, Ontario lang at baka makapasyal kami sa summer sa NJ. PM mo naman baka pwede tayong magkadaupang palad.

Sa muli.

FYIS, B2000

[BattleGear]

Bro Edwin (TAMBAK),

I got only an allen rh hen from the same breeder/friend where you got yours in San Jose, CA. I don't have an allen rh broodcock so I won't be able to produce some pures, too bad.

I sparred a stag produced from this hen and he sparred just like you described - magaling sa itaas at nagwe-weave sa ibaba.

Maybe if I can afford it, I'll get an allen rh broodstag/broodcock from you. I know that you know that our friend Glenejer is also dying to have this line. I will let him borrow my allen rh hen maybe around Feb or March.

Hope to meet you soon!

Regards,
BG

[Bty Hunter]

Battlegear,
you have a hen isn't it na pwede kang magbalik lahi so lang as solid yung inahin. Tiyak ang ganda niyan. Saan ba sa California galing yung Allen RH at kung may contact number. I've read and heard na solid RHs ang Allens baka sakaling makakuha pang infuse don sa Boston namin.

Click here> http://www.pitmaster.com/hogs/ajrh.html

imptd BrunerRH

:angry: :crazy:

[BattleGear]

Bro Bty Hunter,

Edwin (Tambak) and I got our Allen RHs from the same source..a pinoy in San Jose..the PITMASTER himself, Mr. Vito Parado.

Vito also mentioned his Allens in the topic NO SWEATER FANATIC in Chicken Talk forum.

Regards,
BG

gusto ko sanang mag breed ng manok kaya lang wala pa akong mga ides pwedeng mag tanong sana may sumagot
Ang aking mga 1. ano ang magandang i breed na bloodline 2. magkano ang trio. 3. ano ang nagpapanalo ngayon na bloodline 4. kanino magandang kumaha ng trio 5.paano malalaman ang bloodline ng isang manok sa tingin o kulay lang salamat po sa pagbigay ng kaalaman sa manok.

Gusto ko sanang magbreed ng roundhead pero hindi ko alam kung saan bibili.. . . please help me. . .

[garuda77]

ayos yan.

Originally Posted by edwin

Boston Roundhead article from BATTLECOCK MAGAZINE as written by Henry Estolas.

Origin of Boston Roundhead.
In 1864,John Harwood was head stevedore at East Boston docks for the Cunard Steam Ship Company. In that year one of the streamers brought over from England a trio of gamefowl. The address and shipping bill of this fowl was lost. The company kept the fowl for three months and gave them to Harwood. He paid the shipping charges. Harwood gave the fowl to his friend Ned Gill,who breed and fought them. They called this gamestrain the Gill Roundheads or Boston Roundheads. They were light red fowls with black breast,more or less streaked with hinger. The hens ,light wheaten color. All had YELLOW legs. The imported trio had small ROUNDHEADS, pea combs and heavy feathers (same features of an Allen Roundheads if you noticed).
After Ned Gill died,John Mc Coy of Marblehead,Massachussetts got some of the Gill fowl and crossed this with John Stone"s fowl. The progeny from this mating went to Frank Coolidge and from him to Mr.Duryeas. Mr Duryeas Boston Roundhead has been one of the strain used for breeding the mean and viscious Sanford Hatch. Also ,Frank Shy infused a fine Boston Roundhead from M.J.Bowen in 1933 for this Narragansett strain.

www.pitmaster.com/tambak1 and click to roundhead(Allen)

Have a Happy New Year,everyone.

I used to read articles of mr henry estolas and he's into boston rhead

[lucky9]

Originally Posted by brampton 2000

Bro.

I like your attitude. Ika nga ni Mr. Frank Shy who's name is quoted in this thread

"Names don't win games"

Roundhead, squarehead, yellow leg, whiteleg, greenleg, hatch, lemon, hulsey etc.....

If you can tell that a chicken will win on the basis of these terms baka wala nang sabong kasui malalaman na natin kung sino ang mananalo by establishing kung aling Kulay o pangalan ang magaling....

ika rin ng isang yumaong sikatr na politiko na kabario natin eh
"Sa inyo na ang maganda, sakin na ang magaling"

Basta keep records of which fowl you win with, how you breed and care for them...just keep track...kahit bansagan mo pa ng "Talunan Strain" yan by name eh kung magaling talaga eh mananalo't mananalo yan...

Pano kung magchamp ka sa wsc... eto ang datingan nun... SOLO CHAMP TALUNAN LINE...

tapos magbebenta ka ng palahi mo ang adds mo eh FOR SALE TALUNAN LINEs...

nakakatawang isipin.... I totally agree with you sir. there is no assurance of winning a fair cockfight. very few are those roosters who scores 5 to 10 wins and died due to old age. karaniwan 3 to four wins lng dedo na or baldado na png brood cock nalang.

in my small backyard, I use 2 method of breeding.. by names or lineage and the other is by performance. I prefer more yung by performance. what I mean is using a multi winner as BC kahit di ko alam bloodline nya at pag nagbigay ng mga multiwinner din na anak ay pinaparami ko ito up to what I can only feed and for personal use only.

[jwhiteroundhead]

Originally Posted by benjamin ontal

Gusto ko sanang magbreed ng roundhead pero hindi ko alam kung saan bibili.. . . please help me. . .

I suggest that you get from Escolin brothers...super yung boston roundhead nila..