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October 30th, 2005, 09:27 PM
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Performance enhancer will increase the
winning percentage of your fowl
IF USED PROPERLY....
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November 3rd, 2005, 05:22 PM
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red gel forte
Amigos, how would you guys classified Red Gel forte, is an enhancer, testosterone, but is a natural one in the fowl. I have used it with pretty good results..Gracias Amigos
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November 3rd, 2005, 08:19 PM
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likewise
good blood,good all around care..and b complex..[/COLOR][/SIZE]
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November 4th, 2005, 01:15 AM
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Condition Condition & more Conditioning!
No matter what weapon you fight in. Your Cocks battle is, Fatuige, Injury and Shock! The FIRST 2 PITTINGS is what you condition your cock for!
Anything after that in the fight is questionable and could go either way for the 2 Roosters!
The well conditioned & sharper rooster 85% of the time WINS! To me LUCK is good when I need it! But really as a Breeder and a Fighter of my Gamefowl I stress on, Feed, Care and Conditioning 365 and 24/7.
I dont believe in the Refre, bacause he's always for the Jess givers & the House! I Believe in my Rooster to get his job done & Luck sucks! I rather win my fight out-right every time...AND when I loose.. I know that my rooster found a way to loose or I matched into a better cock, or it was just plain luck for the other guy that won..I do know the difference between the three..
I use the roids and suppliments to create a Rooster with more CUT, SPEED, Stamina & Power! than he knew he ever had! My Focus is on His 1st and 2nd pitting against his opposition! Fatuigue!
If it should go beyond that then the Roids and suplements Kick in only as an aid to inhence his brain and body! His Breeding & Bloodline and his determination to continue fighting is based on his brain dealing with his ever growing, SHOCK caused by his injuries! This combination of the Feed he's gotten and the Roids and Supliments will also help control his bleeding.. As to the air which is going into his cavity due to his wounds..His blood needs to have alot of oxygen in it! More fights are lost due to Bleeding and Shock setting in! My roosters hardly ever bleed due to the feed, care, supliments and time I need to put in getting their blood right before fight day! Fatuige & Shock is the downer in all Fights to me, when 2 good equal roosters battle it out!
But My understanding in this Serious Compotition is! I got his MAMA and PAPA and can make more of his kind! But ALWAYS REMEMBERING that when I'm using the Roids and Suppliments!
"LESS IS ALWAYS BETTER THAN ENEOUGH!"
It's not what you do! It's HOW YOU DO IT and they are all Individuals when it comes to putting them up to fight!
YOU do what works for YOU! Talk is Cheap! When that Scabard Drops all the Bull-Sht, Stops! Your Rooster is in for the fight of his life and You Were his Feeder & Conditioner! What he puts out is What you put in him! A GOOD KNIFE MAN always helps alot to!
I strap my Roosters to their weapon and not the weapon to my rooster!
WIN, LOOSE OR DRAW it's all the same in the PIT!
BLOODLINE, SPEED, AND CUT, CUT, CUT with alot of good FEED & CONDITIONING! 
PREVAILS!....  and the 24/7 and 365 days you devote to these, "Victims Of Love"...Just My Opinion!
I do use the Roids and Suppliments to inhance my roosters abilities and stamina, 30 days before point and fighting them.
This world to day is all about Science and Knowledge..
Why do you think that Athelet's are tested after winning compotitions? It's not their health that they have in mind!
It's how they won and by what means they won by...
NATURAL is based on a Roosters Feed, Health and his Vitality, in a controled inviroment by you..Thats it! The moon, caliskis, lines in the scales on a roosters leg or leg color verses leg color are all hokus pocus stuff to me..I dont believe in it and many have fallen because they did when they met my Little Warriors! I loose to but not as much as others and I'm usualy the Underdog taking the jess 7ns and even 6..The majority of my fights in the first pitting are on an average of, 10 to 15 sec. and it's over!
If I won? I then say to my son, "Pick him up Son and thank's you all for the jess!"
But really! ALL should be a good sportsman and alittle humble in this, Serious Sport and Compotition...Those who use poison and dirty slick pitting and Refrees on the take ALL SUCK! Life is a Full Circle, and these Ass-Wipes will get whats comming to them!
If you want to fight into the Top Competitors of Compotition? You need to take your Roosters beyond their natural & normal peak of performance and gameness to have a chance at winning in the high stakes world, at this now & present time 2006!
Guys are breeding TOP Quality Fowl these days but you Pay big bucks for these Import Roosters, $200, 300, 400 dollars and up just to fight...I need to breed and raise, equal to these Imports in order to compete and fight on the top level, pluss more!
Thats What Fighting Roosters is all about, WINNING! Right!
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November 6th, 2005, 10:51 AM
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RED CELL IN FOURTEEN DAYS KEEP. One table spoon Red Cell mix with one quart of water, give 1cc everyday PO until three days before the fight. SEE REDCELL POST HE BEEN USING IT FOR 14YRS. THANK YOU GUYS KEEP ON POSTING
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November 10th, 2005, 12:01 PM
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you hit it right in the head! there are no prohibitions in cockfighting regarding the use of this enhancers so why not use it. in the olympics these substances are banned,when tested positive for these drugs, you automatically loose everthing you won. but in cockfighting this is legal and a matter of knowing how and when to use it. just like what they say "do everything to win except cheat". :sprcool:
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November 10th, 2005, 03:40 PM
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bigben, Thank You
I had someone ask me "what type and how do I use it? As to the Roids and the Suplements, & fowl enhancers for the feed? I had to smile and shake my head!
Because it was no dam easy road to where I am after 11 years, of Breeding Raising & Fighting..There were about 5 of us who started back in 95 We all chiped in to buy VHS tapes by Charlie Car, Night Owl, Driskel Keep and a few other so called Keeps...Then they were all good if you wanted the Basics...Sick part was They never said what the hell they really used but for more money they would sell their secret weapon....
What I do now and How I do it is by my past trial and errors..
The MEN who helped me the most was Mr Blackburn for quite a few years Then their was, Doc Teddy Tanchanco ..Blackburn died and left his Concoctions to some body, The Doc got the best Conditioning book out! He likes to WIN! AND Is Well known for it!
I say to anyone who wants to step up a notch in getting your roosters really ready to fight, and want to know about and how to use the steroids and those commercial feed additives, & supliments. TO first go on the internet!
Read up on Animals that race and endure punishment when they compete at high stakes..What is used. Their Speed and Stamina and Training, are critical. The proper conditioning feed and supplements are added to their diets.. Such animals as.. Race Horses, Dogs Racing Pigions.AND/.More are all simular in genitics. But fowl are a little different in their bodies composition. Animals that are depleeting,need medication to become stronger, They are administered with certain (sterroids, and given electrolites & vitamins) to enhance their vitality.
By a Lic. Veternaian. Read up as to why!
For Vetanary Use only! Youve seen this many times before on lables..
Read up and pay close attention to the HARM that can come when administering with out being knowledgeable, as to the break down, and the time it takes for it to work..
Thats why I say that Less is better than Eneough!
Knowledge is the Key to a roosters ENHENCED Ability AND HIS Vitality so he can endure his battle beyond any words and if needed a little luck is always welcome!
I say that all most everytime I and my Sons fight a string of our roosters. Someone comes up to me or my boys and wants to know "What I give give my roosters?"
I've told my sons not to tell them, nothing.
My answer now would be, to all who ask is .. "Love!"
REMEMBER This!" When YOUR ROOSTER comes from the Back and Wins (your) match? HE FOUGHT TUFF & DID IT FOR YOU!":rbounce:
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November 10th, 2005, 11:45 PM
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some new tips on conditioning
some new tips in conditioning i found helpful, go to www.pitfowl.com, I'm not in anyway related or owner of this site.
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December 24th, 2005, 11:45 PM
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i used B-12 to condition my fowl....properly used can give you a good result.:rbounce:
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January 21st, 2006, 02:01 PM
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natural keep is always the best ....
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January 23rd, 2006, 01:35 PM
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conditioning aids
hello guys who among you been using the sublingual B12 5000MG. I want to know coz I bought some try to use to my birds as conditioning aids. thanks in advance.
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January 24th, 2006, 07:47 PM
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sorry hindi ko alam hehehe
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March 16th, 2006, 01:43 PM
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March 16th, 2006, 03:32 PM
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aside from the good feeding program,
before the fight i give my battle cocks with vitamins
and other supplement.
i use MAXI B 1000 BY DURVET.
but be extra careful with the dosage.
i use it with a viatamin supplement to counter its
potency. Like centrum or stress tab.
we got a very good records of winnings using it.
i give it weekly then a last shot 3 to 4 days before the fight.
try it guys. though bit expensive but efficient.
the last time i heard it has a local counter part brand.
it is available in manila for a less amount than the
imported one by durvet.
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March 17th, 2006, 07:45 AM
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red cell
ligas_paka 2006
what's the dose of red cell? a drop a day or twice? pls, enlightened me..gracias
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March 17th, 2006, 08:20 AM
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Bai..here is a link in which you can find good & valuable info's regarding dosage ..hope this helps..
http://www.sabong.net.ph/forum/showt...hlight=redcell
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March 17th, 2006, 09:00 AM
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on red cell:
2 drops per day per bird every other 2 days; or
1 Tbsp. per gallon of Feed; may be combined with Cod Liver Oil as a vehicle for mixing with feed;
Cod Liver Oil: 1 Tbsp. per gallon of Feed once a week for adult fowl as a vitamin A & D supplement.
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March 17th, 2006, 08:26 PM
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red cell?
mga sangkay pang kabayo yan gamot hindi ba ma over dose ung manok natin?
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March 21st, 2006, 11:36 AM
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redcell
i used redcell and it works for me...i used it every day in my conditioning and it works very will...i dont even measure how many drops i put on it basta mga morethan 10 or 10 drops i will put on it..
ligas_paka2006
bai, ako to g tanaw and website imo g hatag but wla man did2 ge botang kong unsay dose sa pag hatag sa atong mga gamefowl...its so alarming bai coz i used it every day and and i put it more than the require dose...but thanx god thers no sign of iron poisoning bai.. bai i just want u to know how are u going to used the redcell? what are the dose in pre-keep and in conditioning? are you going to mix it in the feeds or mix it with water? and if u mix it with water what is the mixture...
bai ligas_paka thanx u and godbless u always and more power
hers my emailadd...felbryan_e@yahoo.com
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March 21st, 2006, 11:54 AM
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sir gud say,
i just what to know regarding to the used of redcell...is it ok sir if i will inject it to my rooster? and if it is ok po what is the mixture sir? and should i mis it with water? any opion will be great help thanx mga kaibigan..
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April 1st, 2006, 08:31 AM
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i've been using belamyl eversince i got into serious cocking and it works fine for my cocks combined with good feeding and natural conditioning.
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April 4th, 2006, 11:36 AM
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July 19th, 2006, 09:31 AM
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Redcell is a vitamin supplement which is intended for Oral use.....Oral as is by mouth and not intended for INTRAMUSCULAR type of administration......pls. do read the label first or ask your poultry supply for additional advice....if you are using Red Cell for HORSES, be sure not to overdose for the sellenium content is very high and ofcourse iron....coz in high dosage it is very,very TOXIC.....ALWAYS LOOK FOR (I/M OR INTRAMUSCULAR) if the drug is in I/M FORM/INJECTABLE, NOT (I/V OR INTRAVENOUS) FOR IT IS FOR VEINS. Over dosage of selenium could cause serious side effects such as diarrhea,fatigue and nerve damage....excess intake of IRON could result to death as in poisoning.......have a great day....
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July 19th, 2006, 09:09 PM
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redcell
sir bebs thnx sa advice mo sir....godbless and more power
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July 20th, 2006, 12:53 AM
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July 20th, 2006, 12:54 AM
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keep them healthy from the day they hatch and you will surely have great success come day of the fight.....supplements are only used to enhance the ability or a rooster but it doesnt help using them if the one's you are conditioning were sickly when they were young...
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July 20th, 2006, 03:15 PM
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July 20th, 2006, 05:02 PM
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Best conditioning aid....
I use B complex nowadays as it is very safe to use , since it is water soluble ( intra mascular injection) and those b comp pills for humans really works, these i mixed with their feed. I have tried using Testosterone, but the side effects are BAD after going off the testos usually after the fight. U see. after injecting these artificial male hormones, the natural production of the male hormones may be reduced or stopped altogether. These can cause BAD side effects to the cock. I learned this the hard way last year and swear never to use those stteriod and testos. To keep you feathered warriors in tip top condition and health theres no better drug or vitamin than B Complex.
just my two cents............
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September 1st, 2006, 10:11 AM
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where can i buy aminoflex ( Dr.Blues) in U.S
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September 1st, 2006, 11:25 AM
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