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Old April 23rd, 2007, 10:28 PM   #1
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Good cross for gilmore hatch

Just got a couple of gilmore hatch pullets from BM. What stag would you suggest that I use to cross them with.

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Old April 23rd, 2007, 10:52 PM   #2
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Bb Sweater!
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Old April 23rd, 2007, 10:52 PM   #3
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Re: Good cross for gilmore hatch

sweater, roundhead or claret
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Old April 23rd, 2007, 10:58 PM   #4
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Just got a couple of gilmore hatch pullets from BM. What stag would you suggest that I use to cross them with.

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BM crossed it with a Sweater..3/4 and 1/4 gilmore...won the WSC 2006
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Old April 23rd, 2007, 11:08 PM   #5
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kelso and dinkfair sweater


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Old April 23rd, 2007, 11:11 PM   #6
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Re: Good cross for gilmore hatch

Jeff Hudspeth's Albany. I don't own one but I've seen this cross.
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Old April 23rd, 2007, 11:15 PM   #7
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Re: Good cross for gilmore hatch

This year breeding I cross BB or Slick lizard Sweater to my Gilmore Hatch Broodhen
ang with my Cardinal and Dink Fair Kelso...

Yfis...
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Old April 24th, 2007, 09:11 AM   #8
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Thanks for the input guys......really appreciate it. Will probably try it with a claret. In your experience, if crossed with a white legged claret, would most male offsprings be white legged too? Thanks again.
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Old April 24th, 2007, 11:01 AM   #9
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Re: Good cross for gilmore hatch

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Thanks for the input guys......really appreciate it. Will probably try it with a claret. In your experience, if crossed with a white legged claret, would most male offsprings be white legged too? Thanks again.

A toss in the air. If the pullets' genes are predominantly green or blue legged and the broodcock is predominantly white legged then chances are the mating's offsprings - NOT JUST THE MALES - would come up half white legged or dirty white and half green or blue legged. Then there's that propensity that the stags would inherit the features of the hen factor to consider. It's all genetics and it's difficult to predict the answer to your specific question.
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Old April 24th, 2007, 06:17 PM   #10
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all the best.....

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Old April 24th, 2007, 08:20 PM   #11
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Re: Good cross for gilmore hatch

Gilmore/Black Cross then mate it with a pure Bruce Barnett Broodhen and the result will be seen in my link below. Fight # 2 and # 4.
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Old April 24th, 2007, 09:48 PM   #12
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Gilmore/Black Cross then mate it with a pure Bruce Barnett Broodhen and the result will be seen in my link below. Fight # 2 and # 4.
Ting, perfect fighting style, and good station too... continue breeding them
them that way... I could not ask for more, and you've done a good job...
Ka. Noel

Yfis...
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Old April 25th, 2007, 10:02 AM   #13
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Ting, perfect fighting style, and good station too... continue breeding them
them that way... I could not ask for more, and you've done a good job...
Ka. Noel

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Ka Noel,

Maganda ang broodhen na galing sa iyo, hopefully you will continue breeding them that way too...
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Old July 10th, 2007, 04:09 AM   #14
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Re: Good cross for gilmore hatch

We have 8 of the Hudspeth Albany Hens. We have crossed them with Gilmore Hatch, Jumper Kelso, and Gilliam Hatch. Let you know the results after January 2008. We will fight the first crosses then. Let me know if you hear anything about Gary. I have some of some of his birds. Extremely fine birds.

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Old July 10th, 2007, 10:30 AM   #15
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Thanks for the input guys......really appreciate it. Will probably try it with a claret. In your experience, if crossed with a white legged claret, would most male offsprings be white legged too? Thanks again.
if all offsprings,both males and females comeout white legged like their father your broodcock is pure .if not he is a cross.
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Old July 10th, 2007, 10:41 AM   #16
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i have a blak fowls that i cross with gilmore hatches and para sa akin lang ang gaganda ng mga ipinapakita nila..last year i produced 12 of them 10 won,1 lost and 1 draw..
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Old July 10th, 2007, 10:54 AM   #17
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Ka Noel,

Maganda ang broodhen na galing sa iyo, hopefully you will continue breeding them that way too...
Here are the Original Trio Bruce Barnett of
Nauvoo, Alabama...



Left Out - Right Nose (LORN)...
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Old July 10th, 2007, 10:57 AM   #18
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Ka Noel,

Maganda ang broodhen na galing sa iyo, hopefully you will continue breeding them that way too...

Kudos to you also...for giving them 365 days
of TLC... goodluck to your breeding...
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Old July 10th, 2007, 11:18 AM   #19
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A good roundhead or kelso stag.
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Old July 10th, 2007, 11:20 AM   #20
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Re: Good cross for gilmore hatch

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Thanks for the input guys......really appreciate it. Will probably try it with a claret. In your experience, if crossed with a white legged claret, would most male offsprings be white legged too? Thanks again.
if cock is pure ,pullet pure
wlxgl=wlstags,pullets wl
wlxbl=wlstags,wlpullets,with a little bit dirty looking..this is if all pure!!just wat i read.

http://www.dannysgamefowlfarm.com/home.htm

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Old July 10th, 2007, 11:21 AM   #21
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I will cross my Gilmore Hatch to our Hennie
and HH Moore Clarets this breeding season...
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Old July 10th, 2007, 11:59 AM   #22
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Re: Good cross for gilmore hatch

The Gilmore are our bread and butter line. They cross well and most importantly, they win. If there is a negative about the line, it is that although they win they get cut as well. Got to breed alot of them to get through 40 or more derbies each year. We are trying to move away from the Gilmore, but , just can't get it done ! Why, They Win !

our favorite crosses are Gilmore Cock over Roundhead Hen or Sweater Hen. Our latest cross , Black Bobby Boles Asil over Gilmore Hen.

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Old July 10th, 2007, 01:32 PM   #23
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Re: Good cross for gilmore hatch

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Just got a couple of gilmore hatch pullets from BM. What stag would you suggest that I use to cross them with.

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sweater or RH
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Old July 10th, 2007, 02:13 PM   #24
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Try It With Kelso.
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Old July 10th, 2007, 03:53 PM   #25
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The Gilmore are our bread and butter line. They cross well and most importantly, they win. If there is a negative about the line, it is that although they win they get cut as well. Got to breed alot of them to get through 40 or more derbies each year. We are trying to move away from the Gilmore, but , just can't get it done ! Why, They Win !

our favorite crosses are Gilmore Cock over Roundhead Hen or Sweater Hen. Our latest cross , Black Bobby Boles Asil over Gilmore Hen.

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You're abosolutely right on those Gilmores! Even though you already grab the money out of your wallet to pay, you end up putting it back with more cash than you could imagine because they find a way to win....

This warrior came from a Gilmore (with a dash of black) mated to a Carson Farm BB hen..



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Here are the Original Trio Bruce Barnett of
Nauvoo, Alabama...

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...arnettLORN.jpg

Left Out - Right Nose (LORN)...
Those hen they produce are the best and I could not ask for more. The cunning ability of her offspring most likely was inherited from the broodcock (Gilmore with a dash of black) but the ability to aggresively finish the job is a trademark of the sweaters ....



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Kudos to you also...for giving them 365 days
of TLC... goodluck to your breeding...
It's only one of the factors to make sure that your warrior lasts inside the pit. However, it needs a good pair of breeding materials to win a gruesome minutes of non-stop fight. The broodhen that I got from you almost 3 years ago is a proven material and brings confidence to any breeder like me to propagate them. Crossing them with a Gilmore (with a dash of black) is what it takes to come up with a mean fighting machine like this.....

This fight is against the warrior of Honey Yu - a WSD champion few years back.



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Old July 10th, 2007, 06:22 PM   #28
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It's only one of the factors to make sure that your warrior lasts inside the pit. However, it needs a good pair of breeding materials to win a gruesome minutes non-stop fight. The broodhen that I got from you almost 3 years ago is a proven material and brings confidence to any breeder like me to propagate them. Crossing them with a Gilmore (with a dash of black) is what it takes to come up with a mean fighting machine like this.....

This fight is against the warrior of Honey Yu - a WSD champion few years back.



what a super fighting machine, that winning cock is like a super yoyo, always bouncing back to kill the opponent.
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Old July 10th, 2007, 09:31 PM   #29
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Sweaters! They are still winning... Raffy Yulo, BM, Sonny Lagon --- I believe these great cockers are using sweater-gilmore blend to win tonz of money in the pit.

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Old July 10th, 2007, 09:58 PM   #30
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Very good rooster you have sir stinger.... more wins to come
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