Jim Clem Orientals

[cnucum]

Originally Posted by colt39

Man, they are looking good. Can't wait to see the video.

Sir Jim,

I don't have a sparring video of the 3, but I do have videos of them...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YaTKNXYw-s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3ADI84Ay48

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-tQ6v9cuUY

Maybe tomorrow I will try to spar them if the weather permits...

Chris

[blackdeath]

Jim, earlier in this thread a man named Clinis was mentioned. Would that be Clinis Hall? I was gifted some of his nigger roundheads that were aquired before his death and I can see Jap characteristics in them. I can also see Jap influence in his niggers on his web site I think.
I also have nigger roundheads from Randy New but they are totally different than those of the Clinis Hall -Simpson Branch stuff.

[competitor]

Originally Posted by cnucum

Sir Jim,

Got some few photos, for you... All of these from the Melville Asil Cock...

Melville Asil / Sweater

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...1102009186.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2102009220.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2102009221.jpg

They look really good, the last 2 are still a bit young and not fully fighting yet... The 1st one is 10 months already and I will get a sparring video of him and the other Melville Asil / Gilmore hatch grades which are still molting... Lost 1 due to the storm and culled one because of cord injury... So I only got 2 of those but still have 3 more baby stags that are crossed to sweater...

Chris

WOW!!!....thats all i can say....

[elijah]

Originally Posted by cnucum

Sir Jim,

I don't have a sparring video of the 3, but I do have videos of them...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YaTKNXYw-s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3ADI84Ay48

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-tQ6v9cuUY

Maybe tomorrow I will try to spar them if the weather permits...

Chris

[colt39]

Chris, they are looking VERY good.

Rod, yes, Clinis Hall. We entered a Derby at Springbrook together. Fought Jap crosses. Did not do good until later in the day. Very high humidity & they were very wet. Lost 2 & won one later in the day. The Taggets were going for 5 straight & we had a 1/2 brownred/1/2 Jap. They came around that afternoon & we whipped his pretty quick. won 3 straight that night.

[hope1126]

hi Jim
i did get a pair of orientals from you maybe 2-3 yrs ago the stag i got was a little pure black jap and the pullet i got was a rhd x asil but then pullet died upon arrival leaving only the black jap stag.... out of the pure jap brood cock produced some winners so far tested 2 from the brood cocks offsprings 2 winners already the latest is a 10 month old stag won unsratched fought against a sweater
thanks for a nice little jap brood cock
yfis hope

[colt39]

Originally Posted by hope1126

hi Jim
i did get a pair of orientals from you maybe 2-3 yrs ago the stag i got was a little pure black jap and the pullet i got was a rhd x asil but then pullet died upon arrival leaving only the black jap stag.... out of the pure jap brood cock produced some winners so far tested 2 from the brood cocks offsprings 2 winners already the latest is a 10 month old stag won unsratched fought against a sweater
thanks for a nice little jap brood cock
yfis hope

Hey, good to hear from you. Glad you are winning with them. If you want a Jap pullet to go with him, get back to me the end of November & I will give you one if you pay shipping & Broker expence.

Was asked to get a few Jap pics so here they are. Still green feathered but getting there.

http://colt39.multiply.com/photos/album/30/Japs

[hope1126]

Originally Posted by colt39

Hey, good to hear from you. Glad you are winning with them. If you want a Jap pullet to go with him, get back to me the end of November & I will give you one if you pay shipping & Broker expence.

Was asked to get a few Jap pics so here they are. Still green feathered but getting there.

http://colt39.multiply.com/photos/album/30/Japs

hi Jim
that sounds very good it will make the little black jap brood cock very happy he will have a new pullet to play with.... i will get back w/ you at the end of nov. thanks in advance
those black japs are very sharp cutters they kill w/ one blow ... again thanks alot for a nice little jap brood cock
yfis hope

[competitor]

Originally Posted by colt39

Hey, good to hear from you. Glad you are winning with them. If you want a Jap pullet to go with him, get back to me the end of November & I will give you one if you pay shipping & Broker expence.

Was asked to get a few Jap pics so here they are. Still green feathered but getting there.

http://colt39.multiply.com/photos/album/30/Japs

HI JIM!...WE'RE THESE THE BROTHERS OR SISTERS OF YOUR GIFT???


MEAN LOOKING JAPS THEY ARE....


HOW'S YOUR LEG???

BEST REGARDS,
RODEL

[colt39]

Originally Posted by competitor

HI JIM!...WE'RE THESE THE BROTHERS OR SISTERS OF YOUR GIFT???


MEAN LOOKING JAPS THEY ARE....


HOW'S YOUR LEG???

BEST REGARDS,
RODEL

Rodel,

One is the dad & the others are brother & cousin. Mom is not in any pics here. I have a pic of her mom & aunt. I will try & find it.

Leg is getting a bit better i guess. Hard to walk though. This walking cast will not let my ancle move so it is hard to walk. Also, if I walk the wrong way, it hurts like hell, lol.

[competitor]

Originally Posted by colt39

Rodel,

One is the dad & the others are brother & cousin. Mom is not in any pics here. I have a pic of her mom & aunt. I will try & find it.

Leg is getting a bit better i guess. Hard to walk though. This walking cast will not let my ancle move so it is hard to walk. Also, if I walk the wrong way, it hurts like hell, lol.

just an advise jim,try to limit the movement in your affected leg,as if you do,it will disturbed the healing process....and might take longer to heal.
use a walking aid and just put only partial weight on the casted leg.

hope you can get back to your usual soon....

[competitor]

Originally Posted by hope1126

hi Jim
that sounds very good it will make the little black jap brood cock very happy he will have a new pullet to play with.... i will get back w/ you at the end of nov. thanks in advance
those black japs are very sharp cutters they kill w/ one blow ... again thanks alot for a nice little jap brood cock
yfis hope

sir hope,good to hear that you are doing very well with sir jim's japs...hopefully,we'll have the same result to our's...

jim gifted me a pullet earlier this year,bred her to his jap BC as well and produced 5 heads and 4 on the 2nd batch....hopefully,they'll all make it through the rough weather in PI...

here she is...with her 2nd batch...
http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...h/DSCN1392.jpg

and here she is when she arrives earlier this year in my yard...
http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...h/DSC08711.jpg
and here is jims BC...
http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...h/DSC08905.jpg
here are her 1st batch...
http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...h/DSCN1368.jpg



jim's generous offer is just weeks away...goodluck to your breeding with jims japs....

[hope1126]

Originally Posted by competitor

sir hope,good to hear that you are doing very well with sir jim's japs...hopefully,we'll have the same result to our's...

jim gifted me a pullet earlier this year,bred her to his jap BC as well and produced 5 heads and 4 on the 2nd batch....hopefully,they'll all make it through the rough weather in PI...

here she is...with her 2nd batch...
http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...h/DSCN1392.jpg

and here she is when she arrives earlier this year in my yard...
http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...h/DSC08711.jpg
and here is jims BC...
http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...h/DSC08905.jpg
here are her 1st batch...
http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...h/DSCN1368.jpg



jim's generous offer is just weeks away...goodluck to your breeding with jims japs....

Hi
jims black japs when graded to other lines will add smartness and cutting when they take a shot something happens....

[anthony0079]

our (black jap) graded stags for bakbakan http://www.mafighters.e-gamefarm.com...=MA%20Brownred hope they stay on point till fight day

[colt39]

Originally Posted by anthony0079

our (black jap) graded stags for bakbakan http://www.mafighters.e-gamefarm.com...=MA%20Brownred hope they stay on point till fight day

Chris, any video's yet?

Rodel, Yep, I have been takeing it very easy on it. Want it to heal fast. But, have to tend to the fowl. Have birds to select & ship out as well. Put it off but will try to get some of them selected & ready to ship this week. Them oldest Japs getting bigger? Can't wait until they mature to see them.

Hope, you are right about that. They cut very deep & when they hit, things do happen.

Mark, them stags are looking good!!! Did you get them sparing like they want to kill when given the chance? Make sure they are ready so they do not give a free shot? Good luck! One last thing, I hope they are not on point right now. Hard to keep them until friday. Friday is when you want them pointed so they do not go over by then. Un-less you were just meaning that they are feeling good & comeing along & hope they peak friday.

[anthony0079]

Originally Posted by colt39

Mark, them stags are looking good!!! Did you get them sparing like they want to kill when given the chance? Make sure they are ready so they do not give a free shot? Good luck! One last thing, I hope they are not on point right now. Hard to keep them until friday. Friday is when you want them pointed so they do not go over by then. Un-less you were just meaning that they are feeling good & comeing along & hope they peak friday.

jim, got them training with hard and fast hitters like you advised.. they're moving pretty well.. alert from the sparring they're still undergoing conditioning, they'll be fighting on Nov.14 semis and for the Dec.3 finals , God willing.
you're right, by point, i mean keep them moving they way they're moving right now.. very sharp..
Did you see the pure BLACK stag? he's 1/2brownred 1/2jap.. got another one on moult at 14mos. they're brothers to the black Hennie (throw-back?) i was telling you about, although not from the same batch.

[colt39]

Originally Posted by anthony0079

jim, got them training with hard and fast hitters like you advised.. they're moving pretty well.. alert from the sparring they're still undergoing conditioning, they'll be fighting on Nov.14 semis and for the Dec.3 finals , God willing.
you're right, by point, i mean keep them moving they way they're moving right now.. very sharp..
Did you see the pure BLACK stag? he's 1/2brownred 1/2jap.. got another one on moult at 14mos. they're brothers to the black Hennie (throw-back?) i was telling you about, although not from the same batch.

Good,

Yep, seen him. He is a beauty. I got a solid black this year as well. How does he spar? Is he as good as the rest?

[anthony0079]

Originally Posted by colt39

Good,

Yep, seen him. He is a beauty. I got a solid black this year as well. How does he spar? Is he as good as the rest?

He's more of a Flyer what we call Salto in the PI.. but very accurate feet. when he hits, he's on target every time.. his brothers are more of grounders but they also fly when needed. im placing him on reserve since i intend to breed him back to make a pure Black family.. bonanza looking.

[competitor]

Rodel, Yep, I have been takeing it very easy on it. Want it to heal fast. But, have to tend to the fowl. Have birds to select & ship out as well. Put it off but will try to get some of them selected & ready to ship this week. Them oldest Japs getting bigger? Can't wait until they mature to see them.

Hope, you are right about that. They cut very deep & when they hit, things do happen.



too bad you hav'nt got any body to help you with the chickens jim,would've been more easier for you especially with that bad leg of yours...any how,i just hope it heals fast and get you back on both feet...take it easy man!!!

they are really growing fast jim,the one chris has chosen is the tallest among them all stags...chris will be meeting my dad any time this week to do the swap...
chris is sending me a rampuri pullet and a 1/2 melvill/boles pullet as well...
and yeah! the 2nd bacth are doing very well,they're about 2 months old now...being prepared to go to out in the wild"range"...

[totskito]

Originally Posted by colt39

Good,

Yep, seen him. He is a beauty. I got a solid black this year as well. How does he spar? Is he as good as the rest?

Hi Jim, if you don't mind me asking, have you ever breed Greys before?

thanks..

[competitor]

Originally Posted by hope1126

Hi
jims black japs when graded to other lines will add smartness and cutting when they take a shot something happens....

good for you.....you already tested jim's japs line....mine is yet to be tested...hopefully i can produce more this breeding season for testing later next year....i'm planning to fight them straight bred first...hopefully they'll pass the acid test!!!...but i have high hopes for them....

[competitor]

jim,do you still remember him???...this is the one sir allan Y. got from you...

http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...h/DSC08699.jpg

i'll be mating him to a Mcrae pullets later this month...fingers crossed,they'll make a good combo...

[hope1126]

Originally Posted by competitor

good for you.....you already tested jim's japs line....mine is yet to be tested...hopefully i can produce more this breeding season for testing later next year....i'm planning to fight them straight bred first...hopefully they'll pass the acid test!!!...but i have high hopes for them....

tested jims black jap cross to a bates hatch and a black shuffler x asil produced winners for me

[totskito]

Originally Posted by totskito

Hi Jim, if you don't mind me asking, have you ever breed Greys before?

thanks..

It seems that I'm out of topic here and sorry to insist, maybe Sir Jim Clem can give an answer to this.

The reason why I asked cause I've seen a old (5 years +) Regulay Grey? with name Jim Clem engraved on the Red Wing Band.

Just asking and thanks again.

[colt39]

Originally Posted by totskito

It seems that I'm out of topic here and sorry to insist, maybe Sir Jim Clem can give an answer to this.

The reason why I asked cause I've seen a old (5 years +) Regulay Grey? with name Jim Clem engraved on the Red Wing Band.

Just asking and thanks again.

Sorry Sir,

Yes, I have Greys. Have not bred many in the last few years but plan to breed a few this year. Been winning a high % for the guys in PI.

Pics of some of them.

http://colt39.multiply.com/photos/album/21/Greys

[cnucum]

Originally Posted by colt39

Chris, any video's yet?

Sir Jim, I have some already... The 1st spar of the 10 month old Melville/Sweater and the 2nd spar of the 13 month old Melville/Gilmore but the dang connection here in the PI is not very good, the uploading is taking FOREVER, literally...

I will try and try until it finishes, if not then when I get back to Dubai in three weeks...

I will be sparring them again this week end and every week end while I am here...

Chris

[totskito]

Originally Posted by colt39

Sorry Sir,

Yes, I have Greys. Have not bred many in the last few years but plan to breed a few this year. Been winning a high % for the guys in PI.

Pics of some of them.

http://colt39.multiply.com/photos/album/21/Greys

Hi Jim

Thank you for the reply and it is so nice of you to show me/us some photos, they are identical to what I've seen, big birds indeed.

All the best to you..cheers..

[cnucum]

Got them sir Jim, just had to shrink the video down to successfully upload em...

This one is the 10 month old Melville Asil / Sweater againts a "veteran" blue cock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwCBryc-nds

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...1102009186.jpg

It's only his first spar, I expect him to get better after a few more spars...

This one is the 13 month old Melville Asil / Gilmore Hatch against a "veteran" white cock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8ZDL2mpVvQ

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...0102009318.jpg

Believe it or not, this is his 2nd spar only... This guys is got good moves...

These spar where taken last week, I will spar them again this Sunday along with the younger melville/sweater crosses if they are ready...

Chris

[Bulldog1969]

Originally Posted by vakeroo

Brownred30,

That is your own opinion on the subject.... which is not the subject on this thread.... But if u insist, based on my experience, if a bloodline can't compete pure, there is no reason to keep it.... Next point.... How can u say there is nobody who fights pure orientals, can't prove that??? If so, I wanna hear where u fight ur chickens.... lol .... I seen them pure ones fight and win in major competition.... Now, if you say that based on your experience, then you need to keep on fighting more chickens to get more experience.... By the way, it is easier for an oriental bloodline fight pure in LK than in any other steel weapon.... JMO .... And back to the subject of this thread, I seen Jim's orientals, and I can say you can find as good as his for cheaper.... MPO....

Vakeroo, Either one you are bored and got nothing else better to do than to talk about Stupid comments of fighting pure Orientals or two you are just plain dumb when it comes to Fowl knowledge. Don`t you know that even C. NeSmith couldn`t fight those Pure YLH until he started crossing them to perfect the Roosters he was searching for. I don`t know much people that do fight Pure Orientals or any other so called Pure Fowl. Just because the Jim Clem Japs don`t fight pure in major pits does not make it a weak fowl. My friend you must be either new to the Sport or just plain ignorant.

Anyways to clarify things on this matter with our good ole friend Vakeroo or should I say Buckaroo, know your history on fowl before you shout out negative comments about another breeder, I bet you if you ask Jim he will tell you that those Orientals are awesome when crossed, that is why every Breeder has one bloodline that they use to cross to perfect a certain type of Rooster either for the SK, Gaff or LK....Just because he does not fight them Pure in a big Derby it doesn`t mean the Orientals are not game.....My friend go back to talking about ducks instead of Roosters my freiend...

YFIS

Bulldog

[anthony0079]

Jim, sent you email regarding the imported Brownred Cock.. pls check. thanks