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Old September 20th, 2012, 05:12 AM   #2941
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Do your black japs have some of your roundhead blood in them? Because some of my "pure" ones are coming out looking alot like roundheads, a few even have white legs.

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Old September 22nd, 2012, 12:07 PM   #2942
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Cris, I might try something like your cross next..
Bro Marc, hope these will produce excellent battle fowls, 1/2 black 1/4 asil 1/4 jap has always been a dream combination of mine...

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hatch/jap x sweater VS Bonbon Grey lol
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Old September 23rd, 2012, 04:52 AM   #2944
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Do your black japs have some of your roundhead blood in them? Because some of my "pure" ones are coming out looking alot like roundheads, a few even have white legs.


Good Game, can you post the ones with white legs, 'just wanna see the. Thanks!
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Do your black japs have some of your roundhead blood in them? Because some of my "pure" ones are coming out looking alot like roundheads, a few even have white legs.

He looks very good!

No, no Roundhead in them. I have been breeding them for years now & breeding them pretty tight. Not sure where the white leg came from. Must be from something Gowdy put in them. Or something that was in them before he got them.

A pic of a straight bred Jap with white legs. Hard to see them in this pic but they are a black/white leg. Sorry about the way he looks. He is in heavy moult. I bred him to his Aunt this year.

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Sept.24 Monday is the 3rd Leg of LGBA circuit. We will field an all Black line up. True test of their abilities as stags in the Big League.
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First Sparring of my JAP BROWN RED

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Old September 24th, 2012, 12:48 AM   #2948
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uvs120923 003 - YouTube
They are looking very good. Put their feet in the right spot!!! And the best thing is, they are only going to get better. Like a fine wine, they get better with age!

Mark, i will try & find it online.
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Old September 24th, 2012, 01:09 AM   #2949
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Sept.24 Monday is the 3rd Leg of LGBA circuit. We will field an all Black line up. True test of their abilities as stags in the Big League.
Good luck to your fight. Can you take video of your fights and post it here?
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Good idea!! Mark, try & get someone to video them if you can!

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Jim, live stream sabongking.com starts at 5pm. Our fight nos. 8, 29, 60, 86, 102
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Best of Luck Sir Anthony!!!
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Give'em hell Mark! Let me know how you do. Had a friend pm me & told me how to replay it so I will not have to stay up all night lol!!!
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Goodluck to all your fight Mark
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They are looking very good. Put their feet in the right spot!!! And the best thing is, they are only going to get better. Like a fine wine, they get better with age!

Mark, i will try & find it online.
Thanks for your compliments
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Sept.24 Monday is the 3rd Leg of LGBA circuit. We will field an all Black line up. True test of their abilities as stags in the Big League.
To Sir Anthony Good luck to your fight ,,, From my Father Allan

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He looks very good!

No, no Roundhead in them. I have been breeding them for years now & breeding them pretty tight. Not sure where the white leg came from. Must be from something Gowdy put in them. Or something that was in them before he got them.

A pic of a straight bred Jap with white legs. Hard to see them in this pic but they are a black/white leg. Sorry about the way he looks. He is in heavy moult. I bred him to his Aunt this year.

I would't call them jap if I were you. They don't even look close to jap. They may have about 1/8 of jap in them. I have seen a lot of jap direct from gowdy when he was alive. Nothing look close to that jap u got. Both of the cock in the pic does have a lot of Roundhead in them by the look. Well if they are good who care what they are or call. As long they win for u is all count.

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I would't call them jap if I were you. They don't even look close to jap. They may have about 1/8 of jap in them. I have seen a lot of jap direct from gowdy when he was alive. Nothing look close to that jap u got. Both of the cock in the pic does have a lot of Roundhead in them by the look. Well if they are good who care what they are or call. As long they win for u is all count.

Bombshell, kindly post if you still have pics of Gowdy Japs. Thanks!
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I would't call them jap if I were you. They don't even look close to jap. They may have about 1/8 of jap in them. I have seen a lot of jap direct from gowdy when he was alive. Nothing look close to that jap u got. Both of the cock in the pic does have a lot of Roundhead in them by the look. Well if they are good who care what they are or call. As long they win for u is all count.
Remember Jim's Japs are partly Gowdy but the way Mr. Colt bred them Japs- one of the best in the business.
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I would't call them jap if I were you. They don't even look close to jap. They may have about 1/8 of jap in them. I have seen a lot of jap direct from gowdy when he was alive. Nothing look close to that jap u got. Both of the cock in the pic does have a lot of Roundhead in them by the look. Well if they are good who care what they are or call. As long they win for u is all count.
Well, you can call them what ever you would like & sorry, no Roundhead in them lol!

Yes, I figure if they can win, who cares what you call them. Also, Gowdy has had nothing to do with these for many years but they do not look any different than they were back then. The only difference is they are tight bred & selected by me.

So, like I said the last time someone just had to say something like you just did, they are not Gowdy Japs. They are my own selected & bred by me!

Yes, post some pics so we can compare!

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Also, Gowdy has had nothing to do with these for many years but they do not look any different than they were back then. The only difference is they are tight bred & selected by me.

So, like I said the last time someone just had to say something like you just did, they are not Gowdy Japs. They are my own selected & bred by me!QUOTE]


But I can't help but notice the same characteristics in there fighting style compared to mine just by videos ive seen here an there. I like my gowdy japs more an more every year they look better the cocks are far more superior then the stags an the stags aint no push over.
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Also, Gowdy has had nothing to do with these for many years but they do not look any different than they were back then. The only difference is they are tight bred & selected by me.

So, like I said the last time someone just had to say something like you just did, they are not Gowdy Japs. They are my own selected & bred by me!QUOTE


But I can't help but notice the same characteristics in there fighting style compared to mine just by videos ive seen here an there. I like my gowdy japs more an more every year they look better the cocks are far more superior then the stags an the stags aint no push over.
Yup, mine are holding their own against the best in PI as stags but they sure do get better with age.
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Yup, mine are holding their own against the best in PI as stags but they sure do get better with age.
i do have the Jim Clem Jr Black Japs for quite some time already........
i dont fight them as stag, they are best molted out........ they win clean
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they are ultimate cutting birds that only need one punch to destroy you.
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Guys, thanks for the support.
Not our night last night though, lost 3 then had a draw for the 4th. the blacks fought well but with the bad luck of dark fowls last night, we couldnt get the win. as did most of the black fowls that were fought over all, still happy with this blood. they can compete anywhere.

jmho, medium stationed birds are better fought in the stag fights.
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Guys, thanks for the support.
Not our night last night though, lost 3 then had a draw for the 4th. the blacks fought well but with the bad luck of dark fowls last night, we couldnt get the win. as did most of the black fowls that were fought over all, still happy with this blood. they can compete anywhere.

jmho, medium stationed birds are better fought in the stag fights.
Mark, you can't win them all. They are better as cocks anyways.

Better luck next time!
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still happy with this blood. they can compete anywhere.

jmho, medium stationed birds are better fought in the stag fights.

Any bird can compete anywhere its winning but 0-1-3 is a hard pill to swollow Im sure you can sit an make many excuses. but the other bird was just better that night i dont raise clem japs but do own gowdy japs an know there good but there are fowl who have the style that will always beat my japs an give me a hard time evertime.
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Mark, you can't win them all. They are better as cocks anyways.

Better luck next time!
Yes jim, we will still fight some more for the KGBA stag circuit and the bakbakan.. but i think alex, my handler, already got the hang of conditioning black stags
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marc, there's always a next time bro, can't win them all, good luck on the next outing...
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They are looking very good. Put their feet in the right spot!!! And the best thing is, they are only going to get better. Like a fine wine, they get better with age!

Mark, i will try & find it online.
thank you !!! for the breeding material. they were only 6 months old and i agree with you they like a red wine better with age .
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