phoenix firebird butcher

Originally Posted by ROM_PH

Onadski and folks,


Nasubukan nyo na ba magregister sa e-gamefarm?

Feedback naman.

Thanks!

sir rom hindi pa po
yaan nyo po bisitahin ko yan

[waterloo]

Originally Posted by ROM_PH

Eto na po ang surprise naman para sa inyo:

e-gamefarm.com - the newest craze in town

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Siquijor brothers (Rom and Rob) of PHOENIXFIREBIRD GAMEFARM presents to all cocking afficionados around the world E-GAMEFARM (http://www.e-gamefarm.com), the most comprehensive virtual gamefowl farming System online.


Be the master-breeder you´ve always dreamt off.

- Track your farm virtually 24x7x365 even if you´re working abroad...
- Imagine controlling your farm at the tip of your fingertips, anywhere, anytime ...
- e-gamefarm.com is the synergy of the art of breeding meeting the science of genetics...
- e-gamefarm.com is the most comprehensive virtual gamefowl farming System online...
- @e-gamefarm.com, the sun always shine 24x7 -- leaving things to luck only when the handiwork of Science is done ...

How?

E-gamefarm offers the first and most comprehensive gamefowl farming system, from breeding, to rearing, to fighting, even selling, and tracking practically all your farms actvitities all in one system.

1. Breeding:

A. Input your Brood Materials - here, breeders like you can track their brood materials by inputing genetic information, pictures, description, traits, source, and other info about their individual broodstocks.

B. Blood composition Calculator - say goodbye to your OGN "Only God Knows" lines. This section helps breeders track the blood density of each matings, no matter how tight the in-breeding or out-breeding could be, breeders will be able to keep the exact blood composition recording and tracking of their breedings.

C. Breeding Plan - helps breeders visualize the offspring of their desired mating with the proper calendaring of their breeding activities.

D. Breeding Calendar - calendar tool that helps plot the breeding activities.

E. List of Offspings - making your dream a reality. Here breeders will have the luxury to see the fruit of their planned and desired breeding.

F. Bloodlines - list, add, or delete the bloodlines you are maintaining. Who knows! You might just come up with your own nick and come-up with your own Bloodline that can compete with best, like all breeder´s fantasy. Now we are making this fantasy a reality.
G. Fowl Marking - list fowls by markings, keep track of fowls and your gamefowls future.


2. Search Tool - a comprehensive search and indexing system that let´s you browse and search fowls by:

- by Markings
- by Leg Band
- by Wing Band
- by Bloodline


3. Fowl Inventory - you can not improve what you can not measure. Imagine yourself not having a full count and inventory of your flock. Without inventory say goodbye to your hard-earned money.

Example:

Breeding Materials
Brood Cocks - 20
Brood Hens - 40
Sub Total: 60

Pure Fowls
Cocks/Bullstags/Stags/Cockerels - 50
Hens/Pullets - 100
Sub Total: 150

Crossed
Cocks/Bullstags/Stags - 50
Hens/Pullets - 100
Sub Total: 150

Grand Total: 360



4. Fight Recording - track the winning percentage of your breedings, as the more experienced breeder would say "keep the best and cull rest".

A. Per Family - Fight record of a particular strain (i.e. Lacy RH, DF Sweater)
B. Per Mating - Figth record of offspring of a particular mating (i.e. Lemon BC x White Hackle)
C. Per Fowl - Individual fight records


5. Selling Section - have the opportunity to sell your 100% authentic products online.

A. For Sale Fowls - sell your fowls online with full blood line tracking mechanism.
B. Sold Fowls - view sold fowls per virtual farm
C. Selling Website - access the selling portal through this dedicated page
D. Fowl Authentication mechanism - forget about the clones. here you can authenticate with registered virtual farms your precious breeding stocks.



6. Forum - interact with fellow breeders and your clients

A. Breeder´s Forum
B. Buyer´s Forum
C. e-gamefarm Fight Club
D. Feedback

Again thank you for the expected support and we say, @e-gamefarm.com, the sun always shine 24x7 in your virtual farm -- leaving things to luck only when the handiwork of Science is done ...
__________________

mya pm po ako saainyo baka hindi nyo pa nabasa ...diot nalang mya available po ba kayo na lacy at saan galing po ung boston nyo ty po

[ROM_PH]

waterloo wrote:

mya pm po ako saainyo baka hindi nyo pa nabasa ...diot nalang mya available po ba kayo na lacy at saan galing po ung boston nyo ty po


__________________________________________

Waterloo,

I never read your PM, baka di pumasok. About the availability of the Lacy, please call Rob na lang.

About your question. Here´s the story of the Phoenixfirebird Lacy and Boston Roundheads.

Our Roundheads were originally obtained from Herman Pinnon directly in the 80´s. They are orange colored, throws both white and yellow legged peacomb birds. We straight-bred the white legged and really bred them pure, they are what we call now as the Phoenixfirebird Lacy´s. Our winningest line and flagship.

On the other hand, the ones that came yellow-legged, we bred them to Bostons such as those of Jay Sonza and this is what we call the Phoenixfirebird Boston RH´s nowadays. They are full-bodied, excellent and beautiful looking birds. They also cross well with HP´s YLH´s.

Hope this help.

Regards!

[loisbugoy]

Originally Posted by ROM_PH

waterloo wrote:

mya pm po ako saainyo baka hindi nyo pa nabasa ...diot nalang mya available po ba kayo na lacy at saan galing po ung boston nyo ty po


__________________________________________

Waterloo,

I never read your PM, baka di pumasok. About the availability of the Lacy, please call Rob na lang.

About your question. Here´s the story of the Phoenixfirebird Lacy and Boston Roundheads.

Our Roundheads were originally obtained from Herman Pinnon directly in the 80´s. They are orange colored, throws both white and yellow legged peacomb birds. We straight-bred the white legged and really bred them pure, they are what we call now as the Phoenixfirebird Lacy´s. Our winningest line and flagship.

On the other hand, the ones that came yellow-legged, we bred them to Bostons such as those of Jay Sonza and this is what we call the Phoenixfirebird Boston RH´s nowadays. They are full-bodied, excellent and beautiful looking birds. They also cross well with HP´s YLH´s.

Hope this help.

Regards!

sir rom..eto po yung nakuha ko sa inyo..na phoenix firebird multi winner boston roundhead..

3x winner phoenix firebird boston roundhead...


2x winner phoenix firebird boston roundhead...


manny tnx... :-)

musta po kayong lahat dito

Originally Posted by ROM_PH

Eto na po ang surprise naman para sa inyo:

e-gamefarm.com - the newest craze in town

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Siquijor brothers (Rom and Rob) of PHOENIXFIREBIRD GAMEFARM presents to all cocking afficionados around the world E-GAMEFARM (http://www.e-gamefarm.com), the most comprehensive virtual gamefowl farming System online.


Be the master-breeder you´ve always dreamt off.

- Track your farm virtually 24x7x365 even if you´re working abroad...
- Imagine controlling your farm at the tip of your fingertips, anywhere, anytime ...
- e-gamefarm.com is the synergy of the art of breeding meeting the science of genetics...
- e-gamefarm.com is the most comprehensive virtual gamefowl farming System online...
- @e-gamefarm.com, the sun always shine 24x7 -- leaving things to luck only when the handiwork of Science is done ...

How?

E-gamefarm offers the first and most comprehensive gamefowl farming system, from breeding, to rearing, to fighting, even selling, and tracking practically all your farms actvitities all in one system.

1. Breeding:

A. Input your Brood Materials - here, breeders like you can track their brood materials by inputing genetic information, pictures, description, traits, source, and other info about their individual broodstocks.

B. Blood composition Calculator - say goodbye to your OGN "Only God Knows" lines. This section helps breeders track the blood density of each matings, no matter how tight the in-breeding or out-breeding could be, breeders will be able to keep the exact blood composition recording and tracking of their breedings.

C. Breeding Plan - helps breeders visualize the offspring of their desired mating with the proper calendaring of their breeding activities.

D. Breeding Calendar - calendar tool that helps plot the breeding activities.

E. List of Offspings - making your dream a reality. Here breeders will have the luxury to see the fruit of their planned and desired breeding.

F. Bloodlines - list, add, or delete the bloodlines you are maintaining. Who knows! You might just come up with your own nick and come-up with your own Bloodline that can compete with best, like all breeder´s fantasy. Now we are making this fantasy a reality.
G. Fowl Marking - list fowls by markings, keep track of fowls and your gamefowls future.


2. Search Tool - a comprehensive search and indexing system that let´s you browse and search fowls by:

- by Markings
- by Leg Band
- by Wing Band
- by Bloodline


3. Fowl Inventory - you can not improve what you can not measure. Imagine yourself not having a full count and inventory of your flock. Without inventory say goodbye to your hard-earned money.

Example:

Breeding Materials
Brood Cocks - 20
Brood Hens - 40
Sub Total: 60

Pure Fowls
Cocks/Bullstags/Stags/Cockerels - 50
Hens/Pullets - 100
Sub Total: 150

Crossed
Cocks/Bullstags/Stags - 50
Hens/Pullets - 100
Sub Total: 150

Grand Total: 360



4. Fight Recording - track the winning percentage of your breedings, as the more experienced breeder would say "keep the best and cull rest".

A. Per Family - Fight record of a particular strain (i.e. Lacy RH, DF Sweater)
B. Per Mating - Figth record of offspring of a particular mating (i.e. Lemon BC x White Hackle)
C. Per Fowl - Individual fight records


5. Selling Section - have the opportunity to sell your 100% authentic products online.

A. For Sale Fowls - sell your fowls online with full blood line tracking mechanism.
B. Sold Fowls - view sold fowls per virtual farm
C. Selling Website - access the selling portal through this dedicated page
D. Fowl Authentication mechanism - forget about the clones. here you can authenticate with registered virtual farms your precious breeding stocks.



6. Forum - interact with fellow breeders and your clients

A. Breeder´s Forum
B. Buyer´s Forum
C. e-gamefarm Fight Club
D. Feedback

Again thank you for the expected support and we say, @e-gamefarm.com, the sun always shine 24x7 in your virtual farm -- leaving things to luck only when the handiwork of Science is done ...
__________________

AUS ITO...

[waterloo]

Originally Posted by loisbugoy

sir rom..eto po yung nakuha ko sa inyo..na phoenix firebird multi winner boston roundhead..

3x winner phoenix firebird boston roundhead...


2x winner phoenix firebird boston roundhead...


manny tnx... :-)

sir kung meron kang creatinemondhydrate kuha sana kao kungmeron pls send mo ung price kung pwede i pm nlang slamat

[Jugador]

Originally Posted by loisbugoy
sir rom..eto po yung nakuha ko sa inyo..na phoenix firebird multi winner boston roundhead..

3x winner phoenix firebird boston roundhead...
http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/p...NROUNDHEAD.jpg

2x winner phoenix firebird boston roundhead...
http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/p...NROUNDHEAD.jpg


ang gaganda nyan bossing, good luck sa mga laban

[loisbugoy]

Originally Posted by waterloo

sir kung meron kang creatinemondhydrate kuha sana kao kungmeron pls send mo ung price kung pwede i pm nlang slamat

sir nandito po ako s doha qatar...kng interesdo kayo..try ko pituran..den post ko dito pic para makita ninyo itsura...

ito po yung ibang producto nang GNC USA brand po ito...
1.vitamin B-12 1000
2. creatine monohydrate capsule 700mg
3. creatine phospagen hp
4. criatine serum sublingual with glutamine..

ito naman po ayproduct gamit s mga pangarera kabayo dito s doha...DG USA brand po ito
1. Mega B-12 injectible...nasa 2 vial...red at brownish gold ang kulay...
2. Super DMG 3000 food suppliment
3. 5% w/v detroxse..

meron din po dito deca durabolin...(nandroloni decanoas)....
pero d pa po namin masyado kabisado pag gamit nito..nasa tral palang po...

eto po yung laban phoenix boston roundhead nila sir rom at rob..hope you like them..
http://s427.photobucket.com/player.s...fs=1&os=1&ap=1

[waterloo]

Originally Posted by loisbugoy

sir nandito po ako s doha qatar...kng interesdo kayo..try ko pituran..den post ko dito pic para makita ninyo itsura...

ito po yung ibang producto nang GNC USA brand po ito...
1.vitamin B-12 1000
2. creatine monohydrate capsule 700mg
3. creatine phospagen hp
4. criatine serum sublingual with glutamine..

ito naman po ayproduct gamit s mga pangarera kabayo dito s doha...DG USA brand po ito
1. Mega B-12 injectible...nasa 2 vial...red at brownish gold ang kulay...
2. Super DMG 3000 food suppliment
3. 5% w/v detroxse..

meron din po dito deca durabolin...(nandroloni decanoas)....
pero d pa po namin masyado kabisado pag gamit nito..nasa tral palang po...

eto po yung laban phoenix boston roundhead nila sir rom at rob..hope you like them..
http://s427.photobucket.com/player.s...fs=1&os=1&ap=1

ok slaamt i thnk sa creatine monohydreate ..howmuch per capsule ..

[waterloo]

sir loisbugoy send your reply at my email ottog_na@yahoo.com

[ROM_PH]

Creatine -- for me it works wonders!


Good luck to all!


Loisbugoy,

Salamat for your sharing the pics and the fight.

Originally Posted by loisbugoy

sir nandito po ako s doha qatar...kng interesdo kayo..try ko pituran..den post ko dito pic para makita ninyo itsura...

ito po yung ibang producto nang GNC USA brand po ito...
1.vitamin B-12 1000
2. creatine monohydrate capsule 700mg
3. creatine phospagen hp
4. criatine serum sublingual with glutamine..

ito naman po ayproduct gamit s mga pangarera kabayo dito s doha...DG USA brand po ito
1. Mega B-12 injectible...nasa 2 vial...red at brownish gold ang kulay...
2. Super DMG 3000 food suppliment
3. 5% w/v detroxse..

meron din po dito deca durabolin...(nandroloni decanoas)....
pero d pa po namin masyado kabisado pag gamit nito..nasa tral palang po...

eto po yung laban phoenix boston roundhead nila sir rom at rob..hope you like them..
http://s427.photobucket.com/player.s...fs=1&os=1&ap=1

sir magkano po price ng mga yan

[nakamichi]

sir,kung pa deliver sigurado po bang authentic ung stag.kasi po plano ko pong i-try yung pure butcher nyo.for breeding...high station po ba nga butcher nyo?...thanks po.

[yourtheone]

Sir Rom:

I got ruble cock & gavilan hen from phoenixfirebird gamefarm, Kung i ibreed ko cla what do you think sir may potential ba magnick ang combination na ito.tested niyo na ba ang cross na ito. Sir pwedi malaman a brief history ng ruble at gavilan niyo.salamat sir.....

up ko lang po para
makita ni aisr rom
ang mga katanungan nyo

[danbrilll]

up ko rin eto. kamusta na mga kaibigan????

[ROM_PH]

Originally Posted by nakamichi

sir,kung pa deliver sigurado po bang authentic ung stag.kasi po plano ko pong i-try yung pure butcher nyo.for breeding...high station po ba nga butcher nyo?...thanks po.

nakamichi,

authentic butchers are small to medium stations lang. pag meron nagbenta sayo na butcher na high-station yun malamang ay crossed na.

we prefer that you visit the farm so you can select the stocks directly. We usually deliver for regular customers. For first time customers, we encourage them to visit the farm to pick whatever stocks na magustuhan.

Regards!

[ROM_PH]

Originally Posted by yourtheone

Sir Rom:

I got ruble cock & gavilan hen from phoenixfirebird gamefarm, Kung i ibreed ko cla what do you think sir may potential ba magnick ang combination na ito.tested niyo na ba ang cross na ito. Sir pwedi malaman a brief history ng ruble at gavilan niyo.salamat sir.....

The Phoenixfirebird Ruble hatch originated from Hits-a-lot gamefarm in California. It is actually a strain of Dee Cox (i.e. Gerrard Hatch) and Ruble hatch. As you know, both Gerrard hatch and Ruble hatch have a strong McClean influence in them.

A little bit of history, Ed Gerrard hatches also known as Biloxi Hatch, Spangle Hatch, Speck Hatch, Little Ed's, and originally they were even called McLean's. Because indeed, the base blood is a McLean Hatch, that was bred and fought by Harold Brown at the old Biloxi Pit. Ed bred this cock to a Morgan Whitehackle hen that he got from Frank Hooks.The color of the Gerrard fowl can be varied from one breeder to another. Some can be straight comb, others look like dark leg Roundheads. The cocks will stand out in any group, as they are tall, long legged fowl. Colors of this family can range for cock, from black breasted reds, some of these have white specks in the breast, and on other parts of the body. Most of the leg color is green or dark legged, lots of them look like long legged Lacy Roundheads. The hens have many color variations from dark spangle to a wheaten color, with green or dark legs and a Roundhead type of body. On the other hand, the Billy Ruble hatch - are sleek looking and lemon hackle, red in color. Most were peacombed and green-legged. According to Billy, they were ¾ Hatch (Mclean & Blueface), 1/8 Whitehackle and 1/8 Claret (exactly what they fought in 1966 international derby).

About the Gavilan. I do not specifically know the history of the Gavilan and I don´t want to lie and invent a story, but what I know is that they are hard-hitters and really game birds. Actually, our Gavilan´s came from a good friend and fellow-breeder Mr. Ben Rara of the famed BARFARM. We fought these Gavilan in the LGBA derbies and Rob saw their potentials and decided to breed them.

I believe that crossing the Dee-Cox Ruble to the Gavilan will produce excellent hard-hitting, blue or green legged birds. Nicking is a question of luck. Breeding the nick is a question of Science. For me, breeding is the art of perpetuating the nick of nature.

I hope this help.

Regards!

[hyper]

Originally Posted by ROM_PH

The Phoenixfirebird Ruble hatch originated from Hits-a-lot gamefarm in California. It is actually a strain of Dee Cox (i.e. Gerrard Hatch) and Ruble hatch. As you know, both Gerrard hatch and Ruble hatch have a strong McClean influence in them.

A little bit of history, Ed Gerrard hatches also known as Biloxi Hatch, Spangle Hatch, Speck Hatch, Little Ed\'s, and originally they were even called McLean\'s. Because indeed, the base blood is a McLean Hatch, that was bred and fought by Harold Brown at the old Biloxi Pit. Ed bred this cock to a Morgan Whitehackle hen that he got from Frank Hooks.The color of the Gerrard fowl can be varied from one breeder to another. Some can be straight comb, others look like dark leg Roundheads. The cocks will stand out in any group, as they are tall, long legged fowl. Colors of this family can range for cock, from black breasted reds, some of these have white specks in the breast, and on other parts of the body. Most of the leg color is green or dark legged, lots of them look like long legged Lacy Roundheads. The hens have many color variations from dark spangle to a wheaten color, with green or dark legs and a Roundhead type of body. On the other hand, the Billy Ruble hatch - are sleek looking and lemon hackle, red in color. Most were peacombed and green-legged. According to Billy, they were ¾ Hatch (Mclean & Blueface), 1/8 Whitehackle and 1/8 Claret (exactly what they fought in 1966 international derby).

About the Gavilan. I do not specifically know the history of the Gavilan and I don´t want to lie and invent a story, but what I know is that they are hard-hitters and really game birds. Actually, our Gavilan´s came from a good friend and fellow-breeder Mr. Ben Rara of the famed BARFARM. We fought these Gavilan in the LGBA derbies and Rob saw their potentials and decided to breed them.

I believe that crossing the Dee-Cox Ruble to the Gavilan will produce excellent hard-hitting, blue or green legged birds. Nicking is a question of luck. Breeding the nick is a question of Science. For me, breeding is the art of perpetuating the nick of nature.

I hope this help.

Regards!

Sir thanks for the info. Meron kasi ako nakuhang brood hen na Sheryl Penny kay Sir Rob. Tanong ko lang po kung saan galing ang mga penny hatches ninyo at ano ang winning percentage nila. Balak ko na siyang isalang sa Dan Gray na nakuha ko din sa Phoenix firebird. Tnx.

[hyper]

Originally Posted by ROM_PH

The Phoenixfirebird Ruble hatch originated from Hits-a-lot gamefarm in California. It is actually a strain of Dee Cox (i.e. Gerrard Hatch) and Ruble hatch. As you know, both Gerrard hatch and Ruble hatch have a strong McClean influence in them.

A little bit of history, Ed Gerrard hatches also known as Biloxi Hatch, Spangle Hatch, Speck Hatch, Little Ed\'s, and originally they were even called McLean\'s. Because indeed, the base blood is a McLean Hatch, that was bred and fought by Harold Brown at the old Biloxi Pit. Ed bred this cock to a Morgan Whitehackle hen that he got from Frank Hooks.The color of the Gerrard fowl can be varied from one breeder to another. Some can be straight comb, others look like dark leg Roundheads. The cocks will stand out in any group, as they are tall, long legged fowl. Colors of this family can range for cock, from black breasted reds, some of these have white specks in the breast, and on other parts of the body. Most of the leg color is green or dark legged, lots of them look like long legged Lacy Roundheads. The hens have many color variations from dark spangle to a wheaten color, with green or dark legs and a Roundhead type of body. On the other hand, the Billy Ruble hatch - are sleek looking and lemon hackle, red in color. Most were peacombed and green-legged. According to Billy, they were ¾ Hatch (Mclean & Blueface), 1/8 Whitehackle and 1/8 Claret (exactly what they fought in 1966 international derby).

About the Gavilan. I do not specifically know the history of the Gavilan and I don´t want to lie and invent a story, but what I know is that they are hard-hitters and really game birds. Actually, our Gavilan´s came from a good friend and fellow-breeder Mr. Ben Rara of the famed BARFARM. We fought these Gavilan in the LGBA derbies and Rob saw their potentials and decided to breed them.

I believe that crossing the Dee-Cox Ruble to the Gavilan will produce excellent hard-hitting, blue or green legged birds. Nicking is a question of luck. Breeding the nick is a question of Science. For me, breeding is the art of perpetuating the nick of nature.

I hope this help.

Regards!

Sir thanks for the info. Meron kasi ako nakuhang brood hen na Sheryl Penny kay Sir Rob. Tanong ko lang po kung saan galing ang mga penny hatches ninyo at ano ang winning percentage nila. Balak ko na siyang isalang sa Dan Gray na nakuha ko din sa Phoenix firebird. Tnx.

MUSTA PO KAYONG LAHAT DITO

SIR ROM KAY MANG BEN RARA PO PALA
GALING ANG GAVILAN NYO
MAY NAKUHA DIN PO AKO KAY
MANG BEN NA
LEMON-GAVILAN PAIR

Originally Posted by ROM_PH

Congrats boss! Talagang ilalaban hanggang huling hininga ang pera nyo ng butcher.

Yung multi-winner na Boston na nakuha nyo boss, naparami nyo na ba? Ang gaganda po ng mga kalahi nun, eto po full brother nun multi-winner na din:

http://sabong.net.ph/gallery/showpho...00/ppuser/1255

Yung Tiger-black. Bihira lang po yun, kasi nasa experimental stage pa. Pero bumibilang na rin ng panalo. Are you going to breed it or fight it? Sana po post nyo naman video if ever ilaban nyo, manalo o matalo.

Regards!

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pre rom no prob hehehe
ung black tiger ibree2d ko pre,advice skin ni rob sa white hackled na nkuha ko sanyu hehehe..ung unang nkuha nmin na lacy rh cross nmin sa white hackeld wow tlga kinalabasan..super an shuffler tlga..nag mana sa tatay hehehe

yung butcher na nanalo smin buhay ung gagamitin nmin sa breeding hehehe mga winning line kc hehehe

maraming salamat po sa mga materials and panlaban n nbile nmin sanyu di kame nag sisi..

gudluck phoenix firebird rob/rom and more wins!!

[nakamichi]

thank you sir,pede ba i-cross sa kelso.my nakuha kasi akong kelso pullet sa firebird of biboy.

[ROM_PH]

We acquired the Sheryl Peny hatch from a breeder-friend in California. According to the original stocks came from Ron Dale before he died.

I don´t want to lie about their winning percentage because, I never fought them myself. Rob is a hatch lover and I´m sure he can give you insights if you ask him directly.

About breeding with the Dan Gray, again it´s a matter of luck. I am a purist when it comes to Roundheads, I want to maintain their purity because I want to maintain them smart and elusive. In my personal experience with crossing them, I saw that sometimes you get a mix fighting style of a semi-elusive-aggressive cross which in my opinion doesn´t give me the edge of predicting their actual fighting style. Let me share you my thoughts about fighting, again it is just my opinion base on what I´ve noticed:

- Elusive-smart, with good cutting birds (i.e. Roundheads) has a higher winning percentage when fought over an agressive-go-for-the-kill birds (i.e. Blacks).

In an ulutan, if I have an RH with me, I´ll look for black opponent. But when I have a black, I look for other off-colors like grey.

Again, it´s a matter of personal preference. That´s the beauty of sabong. Nobody can really tell the outcome. Always remember that nick only comes when you experiment. Please share with us the output of your Dan-grey Peny hatch cross, because I´ve never personally tried it.

Good luck!

Regards!

Originally Posted by hyper

Sir thanks for the info. Meron kasi ako nakuhang brood hen na Sheryl Penny kay Sir Rob. Tanong ko lang po kung saan galing ang mga penny hatches ninyo at ano ang winning percentage nila. Balak ko na siyang isalang sa Dan Gray na nakuha ko din sa Phoenix firebird. Tnx.

[ROM_PH]

Yes. Lemon-gavilan are one of the common crosses of Mang Ben.

Good luck with him.

Tip, dry-pointing po ang mga Gavilan.

Originally Posted by onadski

MUSTA PO KAYONG LAHAT DITO

SIR ROM KAY MANG BEN RARA PO PALA
GALING ANG GAVILAN NYO
MAY NAKUHA DIN PO AKO KAY
MANG BEN NA
LEMON-GAVILAN PAIR

[ROM_PH]

Jacklord,

Ikaw pala isa sa nakakuha ng white hackles. Eto rin ang suggestion ko sayo, cross mo yang winner butcher mo sa white hackle hen mo. Yan din gagawin namin this breeding season and we will call this strain Whackers or White Hackle - Butchers.

Anyway, my personal breeding opinion:

WHACKERS - White Hackle (gameness) / Butcher (speed and power)
White Hackle / Black Phoenix - White Hackle (gameness) / Black (speed, aerial assault)
White Hackle / Lacy - White Hackle (gameness) / Lacy (smartness, cutting)

More power to your breeding and I´m happy that you are satisfied as well as your customers with your produce.

Regards!

Originally Posted by jack lord

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pre rom no prob hehehe
ung black tiger ibree2d ko pre,advice skin ni rob sa white hackled na nkuha ko sanyu hehehe..ung unang nkuha nmin na lacy rh cross nmin sa white hackeld wow tlga kinalabasan..super an shuffler tlga..nag mana sa tatay hehehe

yung butcher na nanalo smin buhay ung gagamitin nmin sa breeding hehehe mga winning line kc hehehe

maraming salamat po sa mga materials and panlaban n nbile nmin sanyu di kame nag sisi..

gudluck phoenix firebird rob/rom and more wins!!

[ROM_PH]

I don´t see why not. I believe Biboy´s Kelso are JJ´s. It will add station to your butcher.

For me, fighting style of butcher is complete, it´s just that they are usually small for the derbies. So if you add Kelso, I´m sure you´ll produce better stationed birds.

Regards!

Originally Posted by nakamichi

thank you sir,pede ba i-cross sa kelso.my nakuha kasi akong kelso pullet sa firebird of biboy.

[Eiffel]

Originally Posted by ROM_PH

I don´t see why not. I believe Biboy´s Kelso are JJ´s. It will add station to your butcher.

For me, fighting style of butcher is complete, it´s just that they are usually small for the derbies. So if you add Kelso, I´m sure you´ll produce better stationed birds.

Regards!

have you been try butcher cross to any hatch family. if you did how was the fighting style.

[ROM_PH]

Eiffel,

When I started breeding, almost 25 years ago, I started-of crossing the multi-winner Butcher BC of our grandpa with Sue Wilson YLH hatches. Those where probably the best battle cross I´ve ever produced. They produce deliberate, hard-hitting, fast, and really accurate birds. I´ll probably ask Rob to continue doing this cross this season. Thanks for reminding about this superb cross.

Regards!

Originally Posted by Eiffel

have you been try butcher cross to any hatch family. if you did how was the fighting style.