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Old June 19th, 2005, 11:21 PM   #1
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Dark/Off-Colored Fowls; Kulang sa Gameness?

I'm just curious about your observations, dear experts... why do you think most people consider the Dark Fowls as having less bottom? Halos wala ngang mag-entry sa WSC. Please enlighten me...
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Old June 20th, 2005, 07:20 AM   #2
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Pakisagot naman Friends... Gusto ko lang makasiguro sa breeding ko. I got dark fowls. I'll post the pix next time. Buy lang muna ako ng digicam sa Best buy
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Old June 20th, 2005, 07:24 AM   #3
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I dont think blacks dont have any bottom . Infact they are good grounders and medium high flyers. I have a wingate brownreds they are not a high breaking fowl but they are fast accurate, deadgame and deadly.
some blacks are very fast lol at madaling matutulog din, kaya hanap ka ng magandang blacks
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Old June 20th, 2005, 08:28 AM   #4
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What do you think of the dark Miner Blues Wickedfroggie?..

People tend to think they are not game, pero yung 2 wks old pa lang na baby stag namin nakikipag-upakan na don sa 1 month old. Inihiwalay na nga para wag masira.

Palagay mo? Sabagay guaranteed ng breeder ang gameness. Isoli daw pag hindi!
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Old June 20th, 2005, 09:37 AM   #5
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Di ako maka bigay ng comments about minor blues. Hehehe, wala kasi akong minor blues peru sabi ng mga meron maganda daw.
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Old June 20th, 2005, 10:18 AM   #6
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ok lang. Thanks pa rin. At-least may nagsabing maganda rin. Nakikipagarantiyahan nga kasi yung breeder sa akin. He claims he's got one of the best blues in the US, if not the best. Happy cocking!..:hat:
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Old June 20th, 2005, 10:43 AM   #7
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Pareng Blastpak, off-colored fowls always has advantage kasi mostly reds and greys lang ang nasa bigtime derbies so pag nag entry ka ng ganyan may tendency na manibago ang kalaban mo lalo na kung hindi sila sanay makakita ng whites,spangled, hennies,and blacks!
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Old June 20th, 2005, 11:28 AM   #8
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WOW!

Nakakataba naman ng puso yan, pareng g_ayo. Yaan mo pagbubutihin ko. Ikaw nagpalakas ng loob ko, he,he:lol: :lol:
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Old June 20th, 2005, 01:29 PM   #9
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off colored sa wsd...

aside from greys isa lang ang off colored doon ....bulik ni pichay...ang galing...nanalo ako doon...marami rin ang blacks doon at nanalo...mga lights na alimbuyugin....if i may be right roger roberts fielded an alimbuyugin one or two...ngunit yong mga dark red ang panalo nya...parang me lahi na kelso/claret...yong mga cutting ng manok nya ay training yon...kasi kahit anong manok ginamit nya...magaling pa ring mag cut...o kaya infusions sa cutting na nokis...:hombre:
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Old June 20th, 2005, 02:11 PM   #10
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May nakuha akong miner blue from moyzki offspring ng broodcock niya that came from chuck berry . maige ang cutting at masyapol din , 2 times winner na siya at pinahahanda ko na naman ulit para sa pagdating ko , sa hackfight ulutan ko lang siya dinadala , nakakapili ako ng magandang laban dahil pag dinala ko na sa ulutan para siyang nilalangaw at lahat halos gusto siyang ulutan dahil nga sa off color siya.

last June WSC nakita ko yung brassback na binitiwan ni Dicky Lim, napakigeng manok napakasipag , tumagal din ang laban against sunriser ni Dennis Roldan at medo grabe din ang sugat ng brassback ni Dicky pero nanalo pa rin . may sulatada pa dun din sa WSC june04 na yung dalawang off color na manok ang naglaban , yung MCClean brown red ni Honey yu at yung dirty grey ng winning time Jobo , nanalo yung kay Honey Yu , ang lakasat palaging may bagay pumalo ng brownred, sabi nga ni Boy at Emoy ang lakas ng palo ng syapol ay nanggagaling sa hips ng brownred.
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Old June 20th, 2005, 02:17 PM   #11
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Mga Bossing , clarify ko lang po , yung sinasabi kong laban WSC JUNE 2004 po yun at di ngayon 2005.
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Old June 20th, 2005, 04:15 PM   #12
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off colored cocks

igan ,

tama observation ni kaibigang g -ayo advantage nga
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Old June 20th, 2005, 11:39 PM   #13
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awesome!

Angaw2 na pasasalamat mga ginoo!..:rbounce:

Talisayon/balaw, nice observation. Nanalo rin nga pala ang off-colored konti nga lang ang nag-eentry. About performance tingin ko nandon na yung traits enhanced lang ng training. Kelso-Claret mix nga rin siguro yon. Di ko lang talaga kasi naririnig na ok yung ganong cross...

Waldas123, nakakatuwa ,kaya ko nga rin kinuha ang blues kasi mukhang "native" daw. Nun namang sinubukan nila grabe pala humataw. Malakas nga kapag may brownred...

Salamat again Mr. Sonny_Padilla and g_ayo. Si Roger Roberts
ang tumalo sa Hatchet nya last WSC 1st leg '04, off-colored-Puti.
Lamang nga pala kapag di sanay ang kalaban sa kulay kaiba
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Old June 21st, 2005, 01:27 PM   #14
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panoorin nyo ang bakbakan 2004, meron entry na all-bulik. maganda ang performance ng mga to. ang score parang 6/8.

ang bloodline na nakalagay is native, pero according to the hosts, mga english dom to. pa-humble effect lang na sinabi na native.

ang advantage ng off-colored is nagiging tentative ang kalaban pag hindi sanay sa off-colored. parang nagdadalawang-isip ang kalaban kung papaluin ang off-colored. so pag nakauna ang off-colored, malaking bagay na.

in other words, magandang pangharang ang mga off-colored.
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Old June 21st, 2005, 02:43 PM   #15
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isa ako sa mga mahihilig mag breed ng mga off color. right now mayroon akong itim (as in itim na itim), bulik, abuhin at gold, hehehe... dami ano, hehehe...

ganda lang sa mga off color, madali mailaban sa sabungan. yun ay kung hindi ka masyado kilala sa sabungan na lalabanan mo. pero kung nakikita nila na nagpapanalo ang mga off color mo. llamado ka pa rin siguro, hehehe...
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Old June 22nd, 2005, 02:42 AM   #16
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itim...

Meron kami noong itim-na-itim galing sa Batangas. Grabe pumalo at malalakas. Kumbakit nga ayaw masyado ng mga tao. Natutulog daw...nananalo naman. Ayon na-phase out na. Sweater na lang daw sila. Aba'y me tulog din!...:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Old June 22nd, 2005, 02:52 AM   #17
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Heres my Quicksilver Black 1 year old. He will be tested soon.
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Old June 22nd, 2005, 03:12 AM   #18
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Weeeewit..Whew!

What a gorgeous cock, Wick:rbounce: Please inform me of the result. Pag ganyan ang dark fowl mahirap tanggihan:wink2:
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Old June 22nd, 2005, 08:40 AM   #19
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1. Blacks - speed, multiple shuffler, flyer or grounder very good performance, mahina rin sa sugat.

2. Brownred - Fights like a doc robinson hatch...Speed grounder or bullrun attack, aggressive, multiple shuffler, billholder, powerful strokes, mahina rin sa sugat.

3. Claret - vertical flyer and accurate cutter, single to multiple strokes, late maturing, mahina sa sugat.

4. DOM - fights like a sweaterclaret (stylish) medyo mahina rin sa sugat, good dancer/performer.

5. Hennie - fights like a sweaterclaretroundhead medyo mahina rin sa sugat, a very fine performance (stylish).

6. Grey - fights like a HatchClaret or kelso, medyo mahina rin sa sugat a roundhead, sweater or blueface will do to improve their gameness...other greys are like lemon or butcher and plays the typical off-beat dance.

7. Japs winered - Accurate head & neck cutter, typically a vertical cutter medyo mahina rin sa sugat.

8. Spangled - fights like a roundheadclaretsweater medyo mahina rin sa sugat.

9. Pyle - fights like a grounder lemon shuffler medyo mahina rin sa sugat...some pyleclaret goes flyer.

10. Speckled - fights like a lemonblackbostonroundhead medyo mahina rin sa sugat.

11. Whitechololate or miner blue- fights like a grounder brownred lemon shuffler, medyo mahina rin sa sugat.

maganda silang i cross mate sa mga early maturing, aggressive, power, gameness gaya ng mga asilcross, roundhead, whitehackle, sweater, lemon, blueface hatch at ibang butcher, radio na pure...learn the fractional distribution way of breeding...gud luck kakmeyts, make your own design of breeding...godspeed!
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Old June 22nd, 2005, 09:14 AM   #20
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Eto ang napaka-informative!!! Mabuhay ka devilhatch. Alam ko na ngayon ang paghahaluin ko...sanlaksang pasasalamat:rbounce:
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Old June 22nd, 2005, 11:07 AM   #21
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Re: Dark/Off-Colored Fowls; Kulang sa Gameness?

in the making SAM GOWDY BLACK JAP grades
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Old June 23rd, 2005, 04:49 AM   #22
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Ano naman opinion mo sa Kelso's, devilhatch... Bakit di yata kinu-cross sa dark fowls? Wala kang nabanggit...
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Old June 23rd, 2005, 07:05 AM   #23
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pare, magandang cross ang kelso sa hatch. kase ang kelso ayos ang cutting, body puncher, stylish maglaro at may angat. pag na-cross ito sa hatch madadagdagan ng diin at power ang palo nya. lalo itong magiging deep game ika-nga. subukan mo itong ganitong cross at hindi ka magsisisi.
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Old June 23rd, 2005, 07:49 AM   #24
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Opinion kulang black x kelso maganda itong combinatin peru? kailangan maganda din yung broods mo baka mahilig din matulog
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Old June 23rd, 2005, 08:30 AM   #25
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Yup; well-taken Mr. ncyabut. Nice to hear from you too

Wickedfroggie:lol: :lol: :lol: tama ka. You're so wicked, ha...
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Old June 23rd, 2005, 08:37 AM   #26
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blas,
mabait po ako boss blas, im a happy man wag lang unahan try Cecil kelso over black or vice versa.
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Old June 23rd, 2005, 08:53 AM   #27
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Wick, tnx ulit. Mukha naman talagang mabait ka... Sana di ako yung nauna:hippie:

Cecil Davies Kelso! Sabi nga sa ibang thread maganda sila especially their station and body conformation:innocent: Will take note of that
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Old June 23rd, 2005, 09:24 AM   #28
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Always put in yer note that alot of black birds, magaling matulog kaya if you like the ability of black bird, kaya maganda hanap ka ng deadgame na manok to improve the ability of yer birds.
Type ko talaga mga cecil kelso. game game game
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Old June 24th, 2005, 01:01 AM   #29
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Uy! Wick ramdam na ko yan ah...:wink2: Dahan-dahan lang baka yung Cecil Davis K ni Gin Pilem makuha ko:lol: ha,ha,ha

Pero pag nawawala na ang vigor dahil sa much inbreeding alam ko na kung saan kukuha ng fresh blood. Malamang sa yo...
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Old June 24th, 2005, 11:30 PM   #30
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Wicked,

kailangan early maturing ang kelso na gamitin mo para pwedeng pang stag. may mga kelso din kasing late maturing.

Opinyon ko lang.
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