tamang pagsukat ng haba ng tari (longknife)

[Kidd Sentencia]

Ano pa ang dagdag, Pinolim? Baka pag-oo ko eh meron na namang ibang dagdag...hehehe.

Kidd

[Pinolim]

He, he, he!!! I like you Kid.
Guys, let's keep on cocking!!!!! This live!!!



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4got10cocker

[Maning]

Originally posted by GoodWings:
I just purchased some l.knives which are designed quite uniquely called "duling". Can anybody comment on this?
Tx,
GW
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A friend of mine got his linibat (visayan term for duling) blade somewhere in Bacolod.
After couple of months he told me ibinigay
na sa iba kasi maraming palpak.Probably,because of those losses napag-initan ng kaibigan ko ang tari at gaffer niya.
bagongsalta

Ganyan din ang sinabi ni "papeng" (Pawarat's gaffer) sa akin noong puro talo na. hehehe.



[This message has been edited by Maning (edited 10-07-2001).]

[Pinolim]

Maning, the last time I prayed in Candelaria the Pawarrat team won their second championship and Papeng was still their gaffer. I haven't heard about them since.
Were I out of circulation on the cocking world already???

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4got10cocker

[Maning]

Pinolim,

When was the last time you prayed in the candelaria fiesta? Do you know papeng? I know him well cause he is my kainuman during my monogtakod/mananari days. hehehe. May he R.I.P.

[Pinolim]

Maning, all I remember was Pawarrat's 2nd championship so probably '86. Yeah Papeng was introduced to me by a friend who was one of the financiers of Pawarrat. He was a very quiet, reserved person and I didn't even know that he already kicked the bucket.
See, I was really out of circulation.
Your posting about BBF was very good.

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4got10cocker

kaya pala walang magandang post sa ibang thread nan-dito pala ang magagandang topics-

maning's explanation of the "libat" na tari is already sufficient. There are advantages and disadvantages with this kind of "tari".
it depends on the breed of the cock,the gaffer, and conditioner. If you observe the cocks "palo" is either curb or straight line. If you are using "libat" and your cocks "palo" is curve then medyo delayed ang hataw. dahil yan ang secreto ng "libat" pag hinatak mo letter "C" ang sugat. Maning is also right that when the style of fighting of the roosters is classical- "libat" is useless. Gaya ng moda sa baro kahit ano ang moda ngayon-ang basihan ng "basic na design" ay senauna pa rin.

-Oplod-

[Pinolim]

Sundowner, you're from Aklan and during the time I was still fighting my cocks in Roxas City, Capiz, Bobby Mabasa and Dr.Robero were fighting good quality cocks, good conditioning and preparation. I heard they were just picking apples when they fought their cocks in Manila during those times. The cocks they were using were all salto and just waiting for its opponent to move.Do you know them by chance??

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4got10cocker

[Sundowner]

Pinolim I met Bobby Mabasa here in San Diego when we have the Ati-Atihan celebration
three years ago. I heard he is back in Aklan with his lovely wife for good. I don’t know Dr. Robero. To be honest with you I have not done any fighting in Kalibo.

Cheers,



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Sonny

[jlbs72]

Sundowner,

I emailed you 2 days ago. sabihin mo lang kung saan mo gustong bumili ng tari. kung anong bakal ang gagamitin at kung may design ka na pwede din yatang iyan na lang ang gawin nila. i talked to rebel tungkol dito and willing to help us. Have a nice day.

God Bless.

P.S.
E mail me na lang for details. TY.

[Pinolim]

Thanks for the reply, Sundowner!! I think the correct name is Dr.Rovillo. It's good you meet Bobby Mabasa, I don't know if they are still fighting their cocks. Mga big-time na sila pare, pagka encuentro mo ang ila manok, bilog nga kalibo encuentro mo sa pusta. Baliskadanay bulsa!!! But it really is worth watching.

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4got10cocker

[Sundowner]

JLBS72, sorry hindi na kita na sagot doon sa post mo tungkol sa Tari. Hinihintay ko pa kasi ang bakal na gagamitin ko. Kung sa bagay magaganda rin ang mga bakal sa Pinas lalo na yong gawang Cebu o Villadulid. Anyway, thanks sa mga imfo mo. I'll let you know once recieve the metal.

Thanks,
Sonny


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Sonny

[Sundowner]

I thought I should share my experienced to all the Gaffer or Mananari and of course to everybody.
I prepare to use the Filipino Knife with garol mainly for two reasons. First, the garol is an addition weapon that can cause damage to the opposing cock.. You might have witnessed in some occasion a cock will sustain a broken wings, legs or get hit in the head by a garol during battle and eventually lost the fight.
Let me tell you my experienced in Copper State, Arizona Cocpit. One of my fights, in the first fly, the other rooster was hit (tinamaan sa ulo ng garol) and run to the corner of the Pit unconscious or maybe lost its sense of direction. My bird was fatally hit but was able to pick before it died, the opponent being unconscious was not, so I won the fight. Later on I was informed that the opponent has no cut at all except with the bruise to the right side of the head. See what the garol can do? It sounds like “Repley’s Believe Me or Not” TV show. he he he
Second, the garol is an additional support to firmly secure and minimize the movement of the knife. I am sure there are lots of Garol Stories out there, lets bring them out…..

Cheers,


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Sonny



[This message has been edited by Sundowner (edited 10-19-2001).]

Originally posted by Sundowner:
I thought I should share my experienced to all the Gaffer or Mananari and of course to everybody.
I prepare to use the Filipino Knife with garol mainly for two reasons. First, the garol is an addition weapon that can cause damage to the opposing cock.. You might have witnessed in some occasion a cock will sustain a broken wings, legs or get hit in the head by a garol during battle and eventually lost the fight.
Let me tell you my experienced in Copper State, Arizona Cocpit. One of my fights, in the first fly, the other rooster was hit (tinamaan sa ulo ng garol) and run to the corner of the Pit unconscious or maybe lost its sense of direction. My bird was fatally hit but was able to pick before it died, the opponent being unconscious was not, so I won the fight. Later on I was informed that the opponent has no cut at all except with the bruise to the right side of the head. See what the garol can do? It sounds like “Repley’s Believe Me or Not” TV show. he he he
Second, the garol is an additional support to firmly secure and minimize the movement of the knife. I am sure there are lots of Garol Stories out there, lets bring them out…..

Cheers,

sonny,BELIEVE ME OR NOT that's very funny!

:wow:

ah,2 years have passed.this topic of mine reminds me a lot.kasador aka tsampoy,hahahahaha. :hippie:

[english dom]

Sa tuwing mag kakabit ako ng tari unang nakakapansin ay yung senticiador ang sabi sa akin ay labas daw ang kabit ko, ano po ba ang pag kakaiba ng sipat sa puwet at asinta sa tuhod, ako po ay sumisipat sa tuhod, ano po sa palagay nyu ang tamang site sa tari, ito po bay tradisyyunal kung ang asinta mo ay sa tuhod. ano naman po ang masasabi nyo kung ang asinta mo ay sa puwit?

salamat sa inyong mga sagot,


nick

may pagkakaiba ba sa pag sukat ng LOW POINT at MEDIUM POINT sa LONGKNIFE?feedback naman dyan please sa mga professional gaffers natin dyan.eto ang example ng mga low at medium point.papaano ba ang tamang pagsukat ng haba ng tari?



A.





B.





C.

may alam ba kayong mas mainam sa traditional na material na pang PADDING sa pagkakabitan ng traditional fork knife?ano ang pinakamagandang sapin para walang ikot o galaw ang tari kahit umabot sa mahabang dragfight? :hippie:

tanong lang.yung bang ginamit ng hatchet na entry ni roger robert ay MALAYSIAN NA HIGH POINT ANG TARI?malalakas ang paa ng manok ni roger robert pero yung STOPPING POWER ng tari nila ay parang calibre .45.dapa kaagad ang kalaban kapag tinamaan.mukhang yung wound na naiinflict ng ganoon tari ay matindi. :hippie:

[banderado84]

sa wsd lahat ng nakita ko ay semi-malaysian at hindi bababa ng 1/2 inch ang lapad at halos lahat ay med-point ang dating ng dulo sa garol pero high point ang pagkakasabit nila sa binti....matataas umamba(aim) kasi at talagang kondisyon sila kaya gawak talaga pag exit sa katawan gawa ng high point.....na obserbahan ko lang...

Hi Mang Manning!
1.When do you need a high or low point knife?
2.When two cocks are matched,the one is with a short knife the other with a long knife, regardless of the fighting styles who has the advantage?
3. In the US they used to have combo derby using 3 types of weapons, short or Mexican knives,Gaff, and long knife.Do they have to used mixed type of fowls?

preng banderado,
so medium point pala yun pero high point ang pagkaka kabit sa paa.bali ba sa SAPIN na lang niretoke para mag HIGH POINT?hindi naman kaya mahatak ng pataas ng kaunti ang prop toe?ano sa palagay nyo mga sabong paknerssssssssss? :hippie:

[banderado84]

preng tsamp.....yung sa sapin kasi dalawang bawas sa taas at dalawang dagdag sa baba e malaking bagay nayun bale 4 na ikot na yun...wala na ko nakikita kasi nung high point ngayon na parang sinampalok.....uso ngayon puro swabe dating ng dulo pataas....yung sinampalok kasi sabi nila likod ng tari ang kadalasan tumatama lalot pagod na manok....may nakita rin pala akong pakpak langaw, isang entry lang yun limot ko na alan...pre maganda yung bago ni august moon na pakpak langaw, parang regular din ang dating ng likod ....nagaaral pa rin ako tumare heheh..:hippie:




baka pwede ito...from august moon..

[banderado84]

oks yan pre...ang bentahe ng pakpak langaw sa tingin ko e pag nagkahatakan blade to blade yung dalawang tare e bahagya or wala ng pressure sa bandang dulo kaya hindi lulupi yung blade sa bandang dulo, yung ang pinaka importante sa tingin ko sa tare yung tulis at yung talim sa bandang dulo...yun kasi ang kakamot para humiwa sa kalamnan....just how i see it ika nga :hippie:

[ligas_paka2006]

ayos

hinukay mo na naman ako
wehehehehe

[Maning]

Originally Posted by jlbs72

Sundowner at Maning,

Papaano ba yung pasok ang puntirya? may naririnig din akong lihis ang tari, papaano ba ito malalaman?

sa mga gustong matututo ng pagtatari, ano ba ang advise ninyong dapat munang aralin, at ano bang tari ang unang dapat pag-aralan ng mga bagito, ang filipino fork knife ba o yung socket knife ? may nabasa kasi akong mas madaling ikabit ang socket knife, mas bagay ba ito sa mga bagito?

Maraming salamat, Mga Guro.

pagpalain kayo ng Diyos.

jlbs72,

kung kay Blitzgame ang tinatari-an ko pinapalihis ni Roldan/Parehas/007 at kami pupusta sa kabila... hehehe..


manig

[RCERADOY]

preng maning,, bakit ibinisto mo ang negosyo natin baka magalit si mader,hehehe...

sana matuto din akong magtari.