Jerry Hamlin

I would like to know information about this breeder. Aside from the asils, does he breeds other broodlines? Does he has any roundheads and are they good? Who in the PI has his lines? Help.

[indio]

I guess you can try the farm of Tiny Meneses, I once read in one local cockfighting magazine that he has some stocks coming from this breeder.

[Benjie Lu]

Yes, Jerry Hamlin does have some roundheads and they're very good. I heard a story that they cross perfectly with Ray Alexander's clarets. Tiny Meneses of Mirabella Real has some of his bloodlines. His farm is in Sto. Tomas, Batangas.

Hope this helps.

FIS,
Benjie Lu

I have Jerry's "Louisiana" Roundheads, as well as his Kelso, Whitehackle, and even some McRae blood from him. All very well bred excellent LK birds. The WhiteHackle blood came in the form of an Asil Grade hen. Jerry has another line of Roundheads also,(Bruner) that are bigger than the LA Roundheads I have, but I prefer the smaller faster Lacy's.
Jerry is a trusted and good friend, and has gifted me with some of thebest fowl I have ever owned. ALL his fowl are top notch, especially his Asils. The Kelso's are also one of the best families of Kelsos I have seen. Straight combed, Yellow legged reds, excellent station and FAST. They are as good as the "Showtime" Kelso's I have, and very very close in looks to them too with the exception that the Hamlins have very little white in the wings and tail.
Jerry is a very honest and caring breeder, and has some of the highest quality fowl I have seen.
Hope this helped,
Edwin

Contrary to what have you written on Mr. Hamlin, I recieved replies from other cockers claiming otherwise. Who is telling the truth?

[ridgerunner 2000]

Originally posted by bagwis1:
Contrary to what have you written on Mr. Hamlin, I recieved replies from other cockers claiming otherwise. Who is telling the truth?

bagwis1 i since a tone in your voice that you have been burnt by one or more american breeders or were not satisfied with fowl you purchased. But i feel there are still alot of honest breeders that will tell you about all the fowl they sell. But like you i would fear getting a yard breed for a broodcock.The moral is know your dealer.
Good luck.

CG

Originally posted by Edwin Kubojiri:
I have Jerry's "Louisiana" Roundheads, as well as his Kelso, Whitehackle, and even some McRae blood from him. All very well bred excellent LK birds. The WhiteHackle blood came in the form of an Asil Grade hen. Jerry has another line of Roundheads also,(Bruner) that are bigger than the LA Roundheads I have, but I prefer the smaller faster Lacy's.
Jerry is a trusted and good friend, and has gifted me with some of thebest fowl I have ever owned. ALL his fowl are top notch, especially his Asils. The Kelso's are also one of the best families of Kelsos I have seen. Straight combed, Yellow legged reds, excellent station and FAST. They are as good as the "Showtime" Kelso's I have, and very very close in looks to them too with the exception that the Hamlins have very little white in the wings and tail.
Jerry is a very honest and caring breeder, and has some of the highest quality fowl I have seen.
Hope this helped,
Edwin

Edwin be careful when you build-up someone this is the third time that i've read something written by you about JHAMLIN the first one was at pit master and the second was here at sabong.com, make sure that what you're posting is true. mga kababayan mag-ingat kayo. maybe it's true that JH have some good birds but he probably select the ones he want to have them, if a breeder is honest what he say is what he should deliver. i spent hours and hours of phone coversation with JH explained to him what i want as far as qualities of a rooster and you know what? he sent me culls you can't even fight them in "tupada". it's okey if i don't have to spend the money in shipping them to the PI. I told him that i'm going to spend $125.each bird for shipping so they have to be good(good means derby quality). the guy said his birds will win me a lot of fights but how coould you win with a bird that's very low they're not even medium station but low and at least a couple of them have defects. in good faith i even gave this guy a set of long knives those knife where the ones i acquired from a good friend of my brother they are personalized and sent him a sabong video plus i have to order the shipping boxes and send them to him. but what did he send me? he sent me rejects, I should have listened to the guy that takes care of the shipping. He told me that if it was him that he'd send them back, I didn't beleive him because of the posting that i read about him which was posted by EDWIN my mistake was that I thought this EDWIN is the EDWIN of TAMBAK farm. Every time I talk to JH I always mention EDWIN and this EDWIN is from NY, if he is a real honest person he should have said something that this EDWIN is a different EDWIN. Anyway if you wan't to know what kind of birds this guy really sent me ask ROADMAN hes dad was the one who picked them up from the broker or visit my farm so you'd see them and be the judge. by the way i'm planning to get rid of them 'coz it's a waste of time and effort and space. the only reason why i didn't do it yet is that the price of shipping that was spent on these birds can already get me a quality birds back home. kaya mag-ingat kayo mga kabayan. o by the way he actually owe me NINE more cocks but i told him no thanks so up to now he still owe me money.
pasensiya na kayo mga kabayan ayaw kung maglantad ng ganitong pangyayari but that guy EDWIN K. will turn you guys into another victim.

ingat,
kulit

great post kulit. are there any other breeders that we should watch out for?

babam

Kulit,

Who are you, my Dad?!?! Don't tell me what to do.

I am insulted buy the way you painted me out to be a liar. I was building up no one, I was writing of the birds I recieved from Jerry. I HAVE NO LOW STATIONED, OR DEFECTIVE birds from him. You spoke of the way his birds looked, but never once spoke of their fighting ability. I TEST my fowl in steel to see their worth, I do NOT judge their quality on their appearance alone. Even if I did, (which I don't) I would automatically think they were ace's. I have good birds from Jerry. I am VERY pleased with what I have in every sense. Are Hubert Wards Kelso's culls? The Kelso cock I got from Jerry has won three quick fights, and will hold his own against MY Showtimes any day of the week. The Roundheads? They are faster and of equal station to my James Pope Lacy's. Am I to believe that James Pope's Roundheads are culls? I don't need you or anyone else telling me how I should speak of MY fowl. I worked very hard for them, and I think I am qualified to speak my own opinion of them and the breeders I got them from. I have recieved fowl from Jerry on many occasions, and am basing my opinion on these purchases, not on a single dealing with him. Is it my fault you ASSUMED me to be someone else? Is it MY fault that you didn't listen to the shipper? All I hear from you is a bunch of complaining about birds you never even tested. Hell, hack them for $5.00 or test them in your back yard against your ace's. I mean, if all they are is defective culls, your birds are at no risk eh? They should be able to dispatch them in short order. Piss and moan all you want. If they were culls, why haven't you culled them yet? I don't care if this is the last time I post here, or even visit this site. In fact, I am pretty sure it is. If station is what you care about so much, you should have gotten MY birds from Jerry, or, I have a poultry farm down the road from me that has allot of leghorns with great station. You want me to get some of those and ship them over to you? Because according to your testing methods, they should be "DERBY" cocks for you right? Tall, high stationed birds. You can call them Zamboanga Whites if you want I don't care. Hey, instead of bitching about birds you get from breeders why not breed your own? Now there's a novel thought. It's the way I do it...Hmmmmnnn. MY birds win and lose MY fights. They are MY birds because I bred, fed, and raised them. I neither rely nor blame anyone else for their performances but myself. I certainly don't go around crying about what I raise. Maybe I just work harder than you to get what I want...

Originally posted by Edwin Kubojiri:
Kulit,

Who are you, my Dad?!?! Don't tell me what to do.

I am insulted buy the way you painted me out to be a liar. I was building up no one, I was writing of the birds I recieved from Jerry. I HAVE NO LOW STATIONED, OR DEFECTIVE birds from him. You spoke of the way his birds looked, but never once spoke of their fighting ability. I TEST my fowl in steel to see their worth, I do NOT judge their quality on their appearance alone. Even if I did, (which I don't) I would automatically think they were ace's. I have good birds from Jerry. I am VERY pleased with what I have in every sense. Are Hubert Wards Kelso's culls? The Kelso cock I got from Jerry has won three quick fights, and will hold his own against MY Showtimes any day of the week. The Roundheads? They are faster and of equal station to my James Pope Lacy's. Am I to believe that James Pope's Roundheads are culls? I don't need you or anyone else telling me how I should speak of MY fowl. I worked very hard for them, and I think I am qualified to speak my own opinion of them and the breeders I got them from. I have recieved fowl from Jerry on many occasions, and am basing my opinion on these purchases, not on a single dealing with him. Is it my fault you ASSUMED me to be someone else? Is it MY fault that you didn't listen to the shipper? All I hear from you is a bunch of complaining about birds you never even tested. Hell, hack them for $5.00 or test them in your back yard against your ace's. I mean, if all they are is defective culls, your birds are at no risk eh? They should be able to dispatch them in short order. Piss and moan all you want. If they were culls, why haven't you culled them yet? I don't care if this is the last time I post here, or even visit this site. In fact, I am pretty sure it is. If station is what you care about so much, you should have gotten MY birds from Jerry, or, I have a poultry farm down the road from me that has allot of leghorns with great station. You want me to get some of those and ship them over to you? Because according to your testing methods, they should be "DERBY" cocks for you right? Tall, high stationed birds. You can call them Zamboanga Whites if you want I don't care. Hey, instead of bitching about birds you get from breeders why not breed your own? Now there's a novel thought. It's the way I do it...Hmmmmnnn. MY birds win and lose MY fights. They are MY birds because I bred, fed, and raised them. I neither rely nor blame anyone else for their performances but myself. I certainly don't go around crying about what I raise. Maybe I just work harder than you to get what I want...

Edwin,
The whole thing is about honesty, how could an honest parson do such thing? I think an honest person must be honest with everybody, specially to customers who work hard for every penny. Jerry knows about my situation he knows i work harder than anybody he knows that i work 16 hours a day how could he do such thing?
About the performance af the birds, people that have seen them fight when we sparred them were shaking their heads and laughing thierAO they said that i just wasted my money they said that they're an eyesore. If this description of fighting style is not enough then i can't describe them anymore.
So as far as honesty is concerned i think Jerry Hamlin doesn't fit that description like you described him, that's all i can say MR.Edwin K.

Have a nice cocking day to you,
kulit

Kulit,

You came out saying that I (me) Edwin K was:
#1. Leading people to become victims

#2. Posting lies to boost another breeders reputation

YOU INSULED MY INTEGRITY!

Any cocker with hinor would not lash out publically at an individual not even knowing who he was. Do you know me Kulit? I remember you now. You emailed me and I TOLD YOU THAT I WASN'T THE EDWIN YOU THOUGHT I WAS. Even before you bought anything from Jerry, so don't put the blame on Jerry or Me. YOU KNEW I wasn't the Edwin of Tambak Farms BEFORE you talked to Jerry.
You mentioned sparring again. As I said before, I TEST IN STEEL. You let others decide the quality of your fowl by watching them spar? Makes sense. You let others breed the fowl you fight.
You have a right to your opinion of Jerry Kulit, but you have NO RIGHT to bash MY name here or anywhere else. You picked me out of all those who responded positively towards Jerry. Is that the actions of an honest man? IS IT? Why didn't you work on the problem with Jerry instead of hiding behind a computer screen and bitching? You have unknowingly showed the world how honest you are by your cowardly actions.
I own my own business, and laugh at your 16 hour days. I measure my worth by the WAY I work, no simply by the hours I put in. I have built my business from NOTHING. I was un-employed, and at the risk of losing everything I owned when I started my business, so I'm really not impressed with your claims. I stand behind the words I say, and I stand behind the fowl I BREED. I am man enough to admit when I am wrong, and in this case, I AM NOT WRONG. I am willing to supply you or anyone else with a list of references on the quaility of fowl I raise, from people in Saipan, Guam, the Mailand US, and other Islands here in Hawaii. I don't keep or raise junk, and I am proud to say that I own, breed, and raise fowl that I have recieved from Mr. Jerry Hamlin, and will continue to use his bloodlines in my breeding program for as long as I have fowl.
I can see why (if in the case that you truly do) have culls. It's called Karma. I would expect no less to happen to a complaining rumor spreader like you. No one has the right to bad mouth my integrity. Especially someone of your caliber. Before I purchased my first trio from Jerry, I asked for references. I trust the people whom I talked to, and consider them now as my friends, as I have kept in touch with them since. I have purchased fowl for double the price and have recieved fowl that weren't even half their worth. The difference is, I didn't go cry about it over the internet. I cut my losses, culled them out, and moved on. I suggest you do the same.

[rk_opteryx]

Hello everyone!!

I would like to share my experience dealing with Mr. Jerry Hamlin about four years ago. He is a very honest man as far as I am concerned. He did not ask me for a big amount of money either, but I made it a point to send him additional money, being gratelful of the quality he sent me. And he was equally appreciative of the effort I made and even told me if I needed some fowl in the future to please not hesitate to give him a call.

My present location precludes me from raising a lot, keeping only a few for my personal enjoyment. Early this year, I lost all fowl I got from Mr. Hamlin from a dog attack and YES, I am going to order some again from Mr. Hamlin because he has done me right.

I would like to say that I am truly impressed with the quality and fighting style of his Asils. Out of the eggs I sent to a friend in P.I., out came two stags. At seven months, one was fought against a three year old and won handily with a single blow through and through the opponent's eyes. The second time he was fought was in a derby in Abra. He won but he also died. The brother somehow wound up in Tarlac and was entered in a derby for his first fight. He also won and got only minor scratches. These are quality birds, needless to say.

I felt very much obligated to say my piece after having read someone badmouthing Mr. Jerry Hamlin. All the ingredients that I am looking for a fowl I saw in Mr. Hamlin's Asils. Power, intelligence, cutting ability, gameness, station and the list goes on. Appearance?? Looks don't give you wins on the score cards as they say. Besides, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I'm happy to be the underdog who'd later prove others wrong not to judge my fowl simply by their looks.

I think it is perfectly okay to vent one's frustrations on this board. However, I would like to remind people it is not right to cut down on other people like Mr. Kubojiri. I truly believe that Mr. Kubojiri is a man of high integrity as well and who's been very kind to help those who are in need. He has gained the respect of many comrades, both beginners and the not-so-new to the sport with knowledge he readily shares with everyone.

In closing, I'd like to make it clear that I am not here to add fuel to the fire. I just want to present my experience as my conscience dictates. Peace to all.

hirap nang ganyan.mahal na nga, maloloko ka pa.sabagay kahit sa pilipinas ka bumili lolokohin ka rin.kaya mag-ingat at huwag magtitiwala.

Originally posted by Edwin Kubojiri:
Kulit,

You came out saying that I (me) Edwin K was:
#1. Leading people to become victims

#2. Posting lies to boost another breeders reputation

YOU INSULED MY INTEGRITY!

Any cocker with hinor would not lash out publically at an individual not even knowing who he was. Do you know me Kulit? I remember you now. You emailed me and I TOLD YOU THAT I WASN'T THE EDWIN YOU THOUGHT I WAS. Even before you bought anything from Jerry, so don't put the blame on Jerry or Me. YOU KNEW I wasn't the Edwin of Tambak Farms BEFORE you talked to Jerry.
You mentioned sparring again. As I said before, I TEST IN STEEL. You let others decide the quality of your fowl by watching them spar? Makes sense. You let others breed the fowl you fight.
You have a right to your opinion of Jerry Kulit, but you have NO RIGHT to bash MY name here or anywhere else. You picked me out of all those who responded positively towards Jerry. Is that the actions of an honest man? IS IT? Why didn't you work on the problem with Jerry instead of hiding behind a computer screen and bitching? You have unknowingly showed the world how honest you are by your cowardly actions.
I own my own business, and laugh at your 16 hour days. I measure my worth by the WAY I work, no simply by the hours I put in. I have built my business from NOTHING. I was un-employed, and at the risk of losing everything I owned when I started my business, so I'm really not impressed with your claims. I stand behind the words I say, and I stand behind the fowl I BREED. I am man enough to admit when I am wrong, and in this case, I AM NOT WRONG. I am willing to supply you or anyone else with a list of references on the quaility of fowl I raise, from people in Saipan, Guam, the Mailand US, and other Islands here in Hawaii. I don't keep or raise junk, and I am proud to say that I own, breed, and raise fowl that I have recieved from Mr. Jerry Hamlin, and will continue to use his bloodlines in my breeding program for as long as I have fowl.
I can see why (if in the case that you truly do) have culls. It's called Karma. I would expect no less to happen to a complaining rumor spreader like you. No one has the right to bad mouth my integrity. Especially someone of your caliber. Before I purchased my first trio from Jerry, I asked for references. I trust the people whom I talked to, and consider them now as my friends, as I have kept in touch with them since. I have purchased fowl for double the price and have recieved fowl that weren't even half their worth. The difference is, I didn't go cry about it over the internet. I cut my losses, culled them out, and moved on. I suggest you do the same.

MR.Edwin K.
Excuse me, for your information and for everybody's information i did not Email you. if you're claiming that i emailed you why don't you forward it to everybody so they would know who really is telling the truth.
I think you are the person that Jerry mentioned to me that he was gonna send the birds to Hawaii and someone from Hawaii will send it to the PI.He suggested this to me but i told him that my friend from CA have to look at the birds before shipping them to the PI . This friend told me that if it is up to him the birds had to be returned to the breeder because they're poor in any aspect, but because i got carried away by MR. K's i didn't believe the person that inspected the birds. so i told him to just send it anyway.
But when i got to the PI a few days after the birds arrived and personally and phisically saw the birds i almost cried.Because of the fact that the guy that i trusted could do such thing. I even offered the guy a trip to the PI all expenses paid gave him a set of fork knife complete with sapin,pagkit etc.sent him shipping boxes and tape of sabong. So be the judge my friend.oh before i forget the rest of the birds that Jerry sent to CA we're sent back because i already know what kind of birds they are.Our friend in CA said that the Kelso that he sent doesn't look like a Kelso that he called JERRY and told him that what he did wasn't fair he even ask him that if he needed a good bloodline that he could help him out.
He's suppose to send me nine more plus the five that were in CA but no thanks i'm not that crazy to spend $125 a piece for shipping of something that i can't benefit from.
oh by the way MR.K the reason why i didn't cull them yet is that i use them as catchcock and for heating up, that's the only way that i could think of about the use of those kind of birds.

Enjoy your day my friend ALOHA,
kulit


[This message has been edited by kulit (edited 05-01-2001).]

buying broodfowls can teach anyone a hard lesson and may end up to frustration if the desired fowl`s physical characteristics are not met and fulfilled.in my opinion it is better to personally go to a gamefarm and assess and select the ones you like.in this case nobody is to blame.buying thru trust,phone friendship,hearsays and middlemen can sometimes end to frustrations.i would rather buy in gamefarms in the philippines where i can actually see and feel the body of said broodfowl than ordering from someone in states and ship thru a middleman.mail ordering or thru phone sometimes works and sometimes not.and it is part of cockfighting life.

OK, that explains allot.....

Hey Kulit, what does a "Kelso" look like? Are they Lemon Hackled, White, Spangled or Claret in color? Yellow legged, or Pearl? Or possibly Blue? What color are their eyes? Red, Orange, or light? Are they straight combed or pea? Just wondering, as I breed Kelso's....and if you asked me, I would say all of the above. The only thing I can think of that didn't "Look like a Kelso" would be a Brownred, Black, Grey, or Hennie. (or Asil, Dom, etc.etc.etc.)

Next, I don't ship birds to the PI. Never did, and probably never will. Too much red tape.

So...let me get this straight. You kept 5, count 'em FIVE imported cocks to use as catch cocks. LOL! Why five? I use one single Tabletop cock for that purpose that was given to me by a friend. It doesn't make any sense to me to feed 5 cocks to be catch cocks. Hey, but that's just me...LOL!

Maybe you weren't the one who emailed me months ago. Funny that you would confuse me with the Edwin of Tambak farms being that right next to my FULL name is my location...HAWAII. I also find it odd that you would hold my word on such high regard not even knowing or talking to me for that matter. I'm flattered. Common Kulit, that's weak man.
You still haven't explained why you would attack my integrity the way you did. But that's OK. You came across as a person who shoots first and asks questions later. You are unhappy with the birds you got from Jerry, I get it. But I didn't send you those birds and yet you seem to hold me responsible. That is just too funny. I am happy with my birds from Jerry. I'll go snap some pics of them and post them on my website for the world to see and decide for themselves if they are the low stationed defective cocks you are talking about. You seem to hold what other people say in high regard friend. You let others tell you how they fight, what they should look like, hell, even where to buy them from. A bit of advise. Make up your own mind on where to buy. Decide for yourself what standards you hold for the fowl you own. And take responsibility for the decisions you make. It's a good way to line friend. We all have had harsh lessons as the one you just learned. How we handle ourselves after the fact says allot about who and what we are. I have bred "pretty" cocks and won with them. I have also been killed by some of the ugliest cocks I have ever seen. Looks don't win fights. I have fought cocks that shuffle non-stop and seen those cocks killed by slow calculating single stroke adversary's. I have also seen my shufflers cut cocks to ribbons. How a cock spars matters very little till steel is strapped.
Kulit, I am done being insulted by you. There will always be people like you around, and nothing I can do or say will change that.
What I am offering you is advice. That's it.

#1. Test your cocks in steel. Do it in your back yard if you have to.

#2. Make up your own mind when it comes to your fowl, who to buy from, what individuals to fight or breed.

#3. Take responsibility for the decisions you make.

#4. Research your puchases carefully. I got pictures of my fowl before I bought them. You could have done the same.

Lastly. Learn from your mistakes.

You have a great week Kulit. Good luck with your birds.

Edwin

Originally posted by killingfields:
buying broodfowls can teach anyone a hard lesson and may end up to frustration if the desired fowl`s physical characteristics are not met and fulfilled.in my opinion it is better to personally go to a gamefarm and assess and select the ones you like.in this case nobody is to blame.buying thru trust,phone friendship,hearsays and middlemen can sometimes end to frustrations.i would rather buy in gamefarms in the philippines where i can actually see and feel the body of said broodfowl than ordering from someone in states and ship thru a middleman.mail ordering or thru phone sometimes works and sometimes not.and it is part of cockfighting life.

killingfields,
you're absolutely correct on that one, yes it's true sometimes you have to learn the hard way and i'm paying the price. I requested for a picture of the birds but i was sent a different one, that's the reason why i told the shipper to ship the birds to the PI anayway. About personally going to a farm and physically inspect the birds, you're right on that one also and that's what i basically did and i'm very happy with the result. Like the old saying "Better late than never" .
I got carried away and became a victim, but the most important is to not let it happen again or not to let the culprit do it again to me and to others. just like the saying " If a man decieve me once shame on him, If twice shame on me".
About Edwin Ks post yes i specified what i want to Jerry i even sent him the video so he'd see what i'm talking about and emphasized that i wanted a high station rooster but still sent me a low one. Please tell me if the man is honest like MR. K described JERRY HAMLIN. I believe that if a person is honest, he should be honest to everybody.


Have a nice day my friend,
kulit



[This message has been edited by kulit (edited 05-04-2001).]

in my opinion the case is a classical example of breach of contract.the said breeder upon receiving the agreed amount on said chicken being sold has the legal obligation to send also the said required chicken.in entering the contract the buyer is specifically interested only on high station chicken.be it white or yellow legged,light or dark red kelso,the buyer note or said clearly that it should be high stationed.the said breeder is guilty of breach of contract by sending low station chicken instead of high station.if said breeder is living in a state where cockfighting is legal i think you can sue him for not properly executing his obligation,that is to provide you with high stationed cock.

[EAA Indians]

Killingfields.....how did you come up with such a name? I am sorry but it makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.

in memory of those innocent civilians around the world that caught in crossfire due to political conflicts.

[Surepal]

I just got a sweater/asil broodcock from Jerry Hamlin and am very pleased on what we got. He was very helpful on the phone and emails were always replied to quickly. I also have gotten brood fowl from Edwin K. and were all class a fowl. I would do business with them again..
yfis,
Fred

I envy you guys getting prompt emails/reply from Jerry. Im not lucky to get replies from him.

I’m a newbie on this sport and been reading the postings in this site & other gamefowl sites for sabong knowledge. I have read Mr. Edwin K’s posts a lot in this site & other sites. I can say that it always enhances my knowledge. He even answered some of my questions in this site. His postings are very informative & humbly written.

Even though I have not seen or talk to him, based on his postings, I can say that he’s a nice and honest man,
whose integrity I will not question.


My opinion only……. Happy Thanksgiving To All!!! :hippie:

[swallow]

I have been reading this thread for the past few days, and had really reserve my comments.

Personally, with regards to JH's birds I really don't have any idea what they are, but from the feed backs of other guys (Americans & Pinoys) in the other gamefowl sites, his birds are really good. And they have receive some birds from JH as a gift, and were satisfied with them.

In Edwin's case, he has always been satisfied with what he got from JH, and he has made a lot of post in the other gamefowl forum and I have not read any post that went contrary to what Edwin had claimed about JH fowls. It actually surprised me to see this thread about JH in a negative light. With regards to Edwin's integrity, I can say the man is an honest man and easy to deal with. Actually, he trusted me even if we never met each other. that is the type of person he is.


Regards,

swallow (benz)

[don b]

Kulit,
I'm not taking sides, just curious. Who is your shipper? Could it be R A, G A, K C or S C. There are instances with other shippers that replaces or switch fowls.

don b,
You are right about this don b. Fowl switching although not common but it did happened many times to some of us. Just be careful, guys.

One question to Mr. Hamlin If the customer is not satisfied with the birds that you sent do you make an effort to resolve the issue? Kulit is it ok for you to have Mr. Hamlin send you another gamebirds, but you have to pay or shoulder the shipping cost? IF the two parties are in agreement with each other alrighty then. I just trying to bridge the gap or resolve the issue. If the proposal is ok. DO PM each other. Dont snap right away ANALYZE the POSTING carefully before responding. BE CIVIL. REPUTATION is very important to stay in this business. HONESTY is still the BEST POLICY. This is MY own PERSONAL TAKE on this ISSUE. PEACE BRODDAH. Please explain Mr. Hamlin. like in e-bay if somebody make a negative comment the seller have the right to respond to the complainant. In fairness to Mr. Hamlin we want to HEAR your side of this thread. PEACE

It takes a lot of guts to posts such experience like our friend kulit .I dont think he made it up.People change ,a person that is good today might be no good tommrow .Dont worry kulit ,"what comes around ,goes around.":hippie:

I have had jerrys asils for over a decade and I have to say that I am pleased with them. They are some of the best asil I have ever come across. I have fought a few pure in gaff and they hold their own. I wouldnt take a penny less than ten times what I paid for them. And that is only if you could convince me to sell which I wont lol.

[don2md]

Kulit,
Just curious, did you give him (JH) a call after you saw what you paid for? Did you bother to tell him how disappointed you were with the fowls that you received? How did it go? I have plans of acquiring fowls from breeders here in the States. Your experience made me think twice. Initially, my plan is just to phone the breeder and have him ship the fowls to PI. But i guess, i have to spend more $$$ to visit the farm of a particular breeder, the safest way to go... Just asking. Thanks.


Dondon