LEIPER

Sinong breeder sa pinas na pwedeng kunan ng leiper hatch,gusto ko magkaroon,mga kasabong i need info.Salamat

my pure leiper hatch hen
from a breeder/friend from oklahoma
she is being bred to mclean-leiper broodcock
leiper from percy flower blood

[johann]

Mga kasabong ano po ba ang blood composition ng "Leiper Hatch" at ano ang kanilang laro....at ano po ang pinaka magandang i cross d2? Salamat at sana marami ang mag bigay ng info sa breed na ito!

YFIS,
johann

[johann]

Originally Posted by johann

Mga kasabong ano po ba ang blood composition ng "Leiper Hatch" at ano ang kanilang laro....at ano po ang pinaka magandang i cross d2? Salamat at sana marami ang mag bigay ng info sa breed na ito!

YFIS,
johann

up ko lang ...sana may makaka pag bigay ng details about d2.

[george cloney]

brod kindly check the link:


http://sabong.net.ph/forum/showthrea...t=leiper+hatch


thanks...

[johann]

Originally Posted by george cloney

brod kindly check the link:


http://sabong.net.ph/forum/showthrea...t=leiper+hatch


thanks...

sir tnax..but i want to know the blood composition of this breed..


johann

[george cloney]

as posted by wjd_vkd in other site:hope this will help...thanks


wjd_vkd
08-05-2005, 05:56 PM

HATCH IN MY OPPINION CAN CUT, HAVE PLENTY OF BOTTOM AND ARE VERY GAME WITH PLENTY OF POWER. I BELIEVE THEY ARE GOOD FOWL TO USE FOR CROSSING OVER OTHER FOWL.WHILE I BREED ABOUT 60% OF MINE STRAIT I DO CROSS THEM OVER MY WJD_VKD MUFF'S AND WJD_VKD WHITE'S. I ALSO CROSS THE YELLOW LEG AND THE GREEN LEG HATCH OVER EACH OTHER. THIS IS JUST AN IDEA OF HOW I USE MY HATCH. THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT BREED'S OF HATCH.JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA ON DIFFERENT BREED'S OF HATCH I OWN 5 DIFFERENT BREED'S OF HATCH MYSELF. HATCH BIRD'S ARE ONE OF MY FAVORITE BREED'S

I READ IN ONE OF THE GAMEFOWL MAGAZINE'S THAT THE HATCH FOWL WAS A CROSS OF KEARNEY BROWNRED'S AND KEARNEY WHITE HACKLE WHICH WERE BROUGHT OVER FROM IRELAND IN 1870 BY MIKE KEARNEY.ON DOWN IN THE ARTICLE THIS FELLOW SAY'S THAT MR HATCH TOLD HIM THAT HE GOT HIS FIRST ONE'S FROM A MAN IN LONG ISLAND, NY. CAN'T REMEMBER THE MAN'S NAME BUT THEY WERE DARK RED,GREEN LEGGED FOWL. THIS MAN KEPT THE FOWL THE SAME OVER A PERIOD OF YEAR'S. MR HATCH GOT SEVERAL OF THEM,YARDS,TRIO'S,COCK'S,HEN'S.THEY WERE NOT OUTSTANDING FIGHTER'S OR CUTTER'S BUT WERE STRONG GAME AND TUFF,HARD TO KILL . HARRY GENET HAD A FAMILY OF BRIGHT RED FOWL THIS FELLOW IN THE ARTICLE SAY'S THAT MR HATCH TOLD HIM HE GOT ONE OF THOSE COCK'S

[george cloney]

continuation...

FROM HARRY GENET AND CROSSED HIM OVER THE DARK RED GREEN LEG'S FROM LONG ISLAND. THIS IS HOW HIS BREED WAS STARTED.ALSO IN THIS ARTICLE ROBERT LANG'S VERSION FROM LONG ISLAND IS THIS A MAN IN NEW YORK CITY, THAT WORKED IN A LARGE DEPARTMENT STORE, BUT WAS ALSO INTERESTED IN COCKING AND AN ASSOCIATE OF KEARNEY GANG AROUND NEW YORK CITY GOT HOLD OF A KEARNEY BROWNRED COCK AND A KEARNEY WHITE HACKLE HEN. THESE HE PUT WITH THE LATE JUDGE LEIPER ALSO OF LONG ISLAND WHO BRED THEM THIS WAS THE START OF THE LEIPER FOWL. HATCH GOT FOWL FROM JUDGE LEIPER TO START HIS ON FAMILY HE ALSO GOT OTHER FOWL FROM LEIPER OVER THE YEAR'S. THIS FELLOW THAT WROTE THE ARTICLE SAY'S THAT YOU CAN TAKE YOUR CHOICE AS TO HOW THE HATCH WERE MADE.


I PUT THIS ON HERE BECAUSE EVERYONE MAY NOT HAVE A GAMECOCK BOOK BUT. FOR THOSE THAT DO AND WISH TO READ THIS ARTICLE IT IS IN THE

MARCH 2003 ISSUE ON PAGE 50

THIS IS 3 DIFFERENT VERSION ON HOW HATCH WERE STARTED SO WHO REALLY KNOW'S OTHER THAN MR HATCH

Kearney Whitehackle X Kearney Brown Red cross = Leiper (Judge Leiper breed)

Mr. Hatch breed Leiper X ginger Duryea = Progeny Leiper

dark red, green legged, dead game, hard hitting, plays tough (madidiin pumalo).

Mr. Hatch made many crosses (mclean, brownred, boston roundhead, whitehakcle and leiper) and gave some to Mathesius
Hatch was also friended with Mike and Harry Kearney, Jim Thompson, Joe Crossin, J.W. E. Clark and Simon Flaherty and swap breeds.

With this swapping an infusion of Mr. Hatch Boston Roundhead And Duryea brownreds, Law Greys, Thompson Whites and rest personal breeds among the breeders mentioned, was also possibly infused on the offsprings.

Today some cocks are yellow legged and dark reds others have green legged red, a dark red, rusty red, brownish red and a maroon color.
They are strong, hard hitting, dead game, but some are low headed, dumb and poor cutters.

Dave Ward had Clarets and todays Leipers could also have an infusion of Clarets and they have the Fan like tail looking Leipers...(no wonder there's decrease in gameness but increase in good cutting on todays Leiper).

Hennie Mathesius work for Hatch and infused Morgan Whitehackles (Lowman blood and some Gull/Morgan crosses)

Some of these were crossed on the Hatch fowl and though their progeny looked about the same, they fought better.

They lost a little of their power, but became higher headed, better cutters and won a larger percent of fights.

Some think they lost their extreme gameness, but I think this was the case only in some yards. Last breeders who handle this progeny was Mr. Cooke, a partner of E.W. Law.

In my time of having the Leiper and McLean....The Leiper having the fan tailed of Clarets, dark mean eyes, winered with lemonhackle ring, some hackle had the hennie hackle (short hackle with white underhackle color of feathers), greenleg, peacomb, medium station, can play up and down, multiple strokes with power (pumuputok), sometimes billholds up in the air and throw multiple strokes....and sometimes not, it depends on the kind of fighting style of his opponent...it has the typical fighting style of Sweaters today....While my McLeans are darker in feather color and just like the old brownreds who attacks like a bull (grounder low fly) and hit and hit anywhere just like a ninja that is invinsible in the eye of the opponent.....as mentioned above some are dead game and some are not....I guess the gamest Leipers today are those backcross to whitehackle and Blueface and they are straightcomb, bluelegged or yellowlegged with winered with redlemon hackle or lemon hackle ring they differ in speed to sweaters because they are very aggressive...some are mistaken nowadays and called them straightcomb, yellowlegged, winered with lemon hackle ring sweaters or others called it boston roundheads...as the old story goes this could be the throwbacks and copies the old lines being used before....Just take note on the breeders mentioned above and today if they are throwbacks...some Leipers would be Hatch brownred, Thompson White, Law Grey, Hatch red, hatch boston roundhead etc...only to find out was on their kind of Fighting Style....just like a combination fighting style of Hennie(speed shuffler), Sweater(stylish), Grey(side stepper), boston Roundhead (power stroker) and Brownred (attacks like a bull and hits hard).

I Bet today that most sweater and Kelso breeders are going to Relative breeding unto Leiper, McLean, Blueface and Gilmore...if i only had the money i can go ahead of time.

mclean hatch ...........for power and some breaking ability
leoper hatch ........for more aggressiveness
mclean-leiper hatch........are powerful violent hitters
great for crossing with speed fowl
like kelso,roundhead and sweater

[johann]

salamat sa kaalaman na naibahagi ninyo mga kasabong....more power to us all!



johann

[jay acabado]

Mga kasabong, tanong ko lang kung anong gamefarm sa Pinas ang may bloodline na LEIPER HATCH direct from RAT GRAVES, at paki post na rin ang gamefarm website at contacts ni Rat Graves.
Feedback naman Please.

[apong_ambo]

Originally Posted by jay acabado

Mga kasabong, tanong ko lang kung anong gamefarm sa Pinas ang may bloodline na LEIPER HATCH direct from RAT GRAVES, at paki post na rin ang gamefarm website at contacts ni Rat Graves.
Feedback naman Please.

Ang pagka alam ko si Mr. Gen-Gen Arayata at Cong. Claude Bautista may Leiper hatch, nasa PIT Games Magazine (Si Rchard lanier ang nasa cover) yung article sa Hatch Village. PM mo si Starrer at siguradong makakukha ka ng magandang broodstocks. Good luck

[jay acabado]

Originally Posted by apong_ambo

Ang pagka alam ko si Mr. Gen-Gen Arayata at Cong. Claude Bautista may Leiper hatch, nasa PIT Games Magazine (Si Rchard lanier ang nasa cover) yung article sa Hatch Village. PM mo si Starrer at siguradong makakukha ka ng magandang broodstocks. Good luck

Salamat sa response mo, tanong ko lang kung paano ko i PM si Starrer, di ko alam contact details nya, sensya na

[apong_ambo]

Originally Posted by jay acabado

Salamat sa response mo, tanong ko lang kung paano ko i PM si Starrer, di ko alam contact details nya, sensya na

Puwede mo browse ung Members list or mag advance search ka at key in mo "Starrer" by posts. Pag nakita mo na profile niya click on send Private Message to Starrer.

[jga_firebird]

Ano po ba ang laro nang leiper hatch? hi-breaker ba ang hatch na ito?

Originally Posted by jga_firebird

Ano po ba ang laro nang leiper hatch? hi-breaker ba ang hatch na ito?

ung nakuha ko medium breaker lang at ang laro walang pinag iba sa manga hatches namin typical hatch ang laro

[cesario]

leiper line !!!

ces

[leorb]

share ko lang po ang 2x winner kong leiper/mclean hatch

[cnuestro]

i bought a rat graves hatch(leiper hatch o village hatch) from gen gen arayata last august. green legged,medium station sya. high breaker, at power cock. i was able to breed him pero parang mestizo lang mga anak nya. kasi di naman picture cock yung nakuha ko kay gen gen

eto sya,
http://s148.photobucket.com/albums/s...Picture018.jpg

[paby_09]

tulong lang mga kasabong kasi po mayron akong pullet na 5/8 leiper lumabas po ay white leg,yung ginamit kong inahin imported leiper greenleg galing kay war party na pinares ko sa yellow leg na grey broodcock ko 1/2 law grey 1/4 leiper !/4 maclean,tanong ko po kung bakit lumabas ang white leg na pullet.

salamat po,
paby

your law grey carry the white feet gene

[paby_09]

Originally Posted by aurora gold

your law grey carry the white feet gene

salamat pre gusto ko sana gamitin sa dink sweater ko maglalabas din kaya ito ng white legs.

paby

[phoenix101]

If deeply inbred at may cross sa distant relative bloodline ay may throwback sa originals na Kearney whitehackles (whitelegs) and minsan kulay brownred na feathers and eyes at dirtywhite feet, e2 kc ang unang crosses na ginawa sa panahon ni judge leiper (kearney whitehackle x brownred) at sumikat sa panahon na mahaluan ng dugong penny hatch at binansagang bonecrusher lieper hatch...mga speeders na may hard hitting at deep game na charactarestics...pde sa taas pumatay pro mas mabilis silang pumatay kung nsa baba.

kung hahaluan mo ng dink....am not sure kung maglalabas yan ng whitelegs pro sa tingin ko lightyellowlegs ang lalabas at meron cgurong 1 na whitelegs sa ratio na 1:5.

[Mund Belnas]

magandang araw mga ka-chicken, tanong ko lang po kung maganda rin ba ang Leiper i-cross sa Duke Hulsey na broodcock, yellowish ang paa ng duke hulsey (broodcock) at green legged ang leiper (inahin)? salamat po...

[leorb]

Mund Belnas

Pwede po yan sir...ang leiper hatch maganda icross kahit anong bloodline...para sa akin ang pag kross ng mga manok try and error po yan...U WIL NEVER KNOW UNTIL U TRY...isa po akong Leiper Hatch lover...

[JericP]

Originally Posted by leorb

Mund Belnas

Pwede po yan sir...ang leiper hatch maganda icross kahit anong bloodline...para sa akin ang pag kross ng mga manok try and error po yan...U WIL NEVER KNOW UNTIL U TRY...isa po akong Leiper Hatch lover...

up ko lang ganda ng topic dito......

[Mund Belnas]

Originally Posted by leorb

Mund Belnas

Pwede po yan sir...ang leiper hatch maganda icross kahit anong bloodline...para sa akin ang pag kross ng mga manok try and error po yan...U WIL NEVER KNOW UNTIL U TRY...isa po akong Leiper Hatch lover...

ok sir, maraming salamat po sa info, yung na i-cross kasi namin ngayon crosses sa kelso, mga pea comb lahat tapos maganda po resulta out of 6 eggs hatched 5 lalaki, isa babae tapos may dalawang green legged na lalaki na lumusot, mag 4 months na ngayong katapusan...

[Eisma11]

magaling po mga leiper hatch