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Old April 28th, 2011, 05:37 PM   #1
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Post Bloodlines or Fighting style and good conditioning

Guys just a pastime for discussion...for us OFW's to lessen the boredom..

I am not a fan of 1/4 RH 1/4 of that or 1/4 of this line etc etc....or whatever breeders or cockers might say.... blending. At the end of the day its the fighting style and good conditioning program of the feathered warriors that matters.

Gonna ask your opinion... Which one will you choose?

CHEERS,
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 06:41 PM   #2
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Re: Bloodlines or Fighting style and good conditioning

fighting style and proper conditioning, food vitamins and most of all the location i reckoned.

cheers...
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Old July 17th, 2011, 12:30 PM   #3
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Re: Bloodlines or Fighting style and good conditioning

i like pedigree of a winner, plus proper care from chick up to fight day
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Old July 17th, 2011, 12:46 PM   #4
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Re: Bloodlines or Fighting style and good conditioning

You know what they say "You cannot turn a jackass into a thoroughbred"

If the bloodline is not there no matter what you do to them they will never be aces!
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Old July 17th, 2011, 09:49 PM   #5
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Re: Bloodlines or Fighting style and good conditioning

For me its the proper handling and caring of the chicken plus the winning bloodline is the most importan factor.
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Old July 17th, 2011, 10:06 PM   #6
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Proper handling of gamefowls is my vote!....
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 02:37 AM   #7
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Re: Bloodlines or Fighting style and good conditioning

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fighting style and proper conditioning, food vitamins and most of all the location i reckoned.

cheers...
correct!!! fighting style & proper conditioning/food, vitamins.
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 10:18 AM   #8
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for me is the good solid bloodline
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 10:23 AM   #9
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for me desame,bloodline or style
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 11:55 AM   #10
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Re: Bloodlines or Fighting style and good conditioning

Different bloodlines have their signature figthing styles. Kaya kapag sinabing bloodline may kaakibat ito na winning figthing style.

Kung sa kundisyon at di kondisyong manok. Ang masasabi ko po ay dito na po tayo sa nakakondisyongs manok. Kung yung ngang naka-condition ay natatalo. Yung pakayang di naka-condition.

Ang tinatanong ko sa sarili ko ay "ano ba ang ibig sabihin ng naka-kondisyong manok?" Ito ba ay iyon mahusay mamalo sa ngayon at di nagpapatalo sa bitaw pero hindi hinanda para ilaban. O yung lamang hinanda by giving exercise, vitamins and food supplements, at inaakala nating mamamalo?

May pagkakataon kasi na nananalo ang mga manok na di kinundisyon with the proper exercise, etc. May isang insidente nitong nakaraan na bullang-bullang na ang isang bulstag namin ay hinugot lang ng last day dahil sa ang naka-schedule na panglaban ay nagka-sipon. Ang nasabing manok ay nanalo, against sa manok ng isang kilalang breeder. Obviously nakahanda ang kanilang manok at multi-winner na daw yun. Sampu anim kami noon, kasi nga alam sa sabungan na hugot na lang yung isang manok namin. Kailangan kasing sabihin sa mga tropa na magkatabay lang sa pagpusta sa partikular na manok namin dahil sa hinugot lang.

Ito po ay isa sa aking karanasan para magtanim ng tanong sa akin kaisipan, ano ba talaga ang masasabing kondisyon na manok, yung bang dahil sa mga ginagawa natin o yung bang sa kinikilos nang manok natin na bagama't hindi hinanda ay nagpapakita naman ng kasalukuyang kagalingan. Pero mas mainam na rin ang inihanda natin ang manok kasi mahirap makipagsapalaran na puro swerte na lang ang inaasahan.
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 12:40 PM   #11
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Thats right ..Kung si Sn Pedro naka pusta sa manok mo kahit d gaanong kondisyon mananalo yan d ba...
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 01:01 PM   #12
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Gotta have the bloodline,no bloodline no thunders.Plus round the clock care from chicks to adults.Treat like kings and they will fight like kings.

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Old July 22nd, 2011, 07:35 PM   #13
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For me its the proper handling and caring of the chicken plus the winning bloodline is the most importan factor.
I agree with you ... pero may 1 pang important factor to win .. it's LUCK... WE MUST LEARN HOW TO BE LUCKY
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Old July 23rd, 2011, 08:18 AM   #14
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Re: Bloodlines or Fighting style and good conditioning

Good am po mga kasabong.... Ako po ay taga zamboanga..... Every week po kme nglalaban ng mnok, "mas madali mag kondisyon ng magaling na manok at winning line pa", madaling pakilusin.... At ganado ang mga naghahanda kasi alam nila mas malaki ang chans na mnalo ang mga manok nila.... Considering na npkahirap po mghanda ng manok, 4am gising na po ang handler.... Thanks and good day

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Old July 23rd, 2011, 01:08 PM   #15
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Re: Bloodlines or Fighting style and good conditioning

Bloodline ang 1st factor n hnhanap k s manok.dto k kc malalaman kung paano i condition manok. Meron kc manok pg hard training hnd pumapalo ng maganda gusto lng light. Meron nan light training hnd gumaglaw. So dpat alamin muna bloodline.
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Old July 23rd, 2011, 08:12 PM   #16
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Re: Bloodlines or Fighting style and good conditioning

kung ipunin mo lahat 100% mananalo ang manok with the following considerations= Body-configuration, Age and Bloodline 60%, good Feeding and other nutrient plus good timing of giving vitamins 20%, healthy farm or environment 10%, well plan routine and timing of exercise 7%, Luck 3%. That is my formula as small time sabongero which we inherited from our grandparents.
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Old July 27th, 2011, 05:22 PM   #17
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kung ipunin mo lahat 100% mananalo ang manok with the following considerations= Body-configuration, Age and Bloodline 60%, good Feeding and other nutrient plus good timing of giving vitamins 20%, healthy farm or environment 10%, well plan routine and timing of exercise 7%, Luck 3%. That is my formula as small time sabongero which we inherited from our grandparents.
I agree sounds about right.

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Old July 27th, 2011, 05:36 PM   #18
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Re: Bloodlines or Fighting style and good conditioning

In my own humble opinion, both are important. If you have a solid bloodline pero pinabayaan mo naman ang manok (payat, namumutla, etc.) you will find it hard to win. Kung may manok ka naman na naka vitamins nga araw-araw but has a family history of backing out during fights (tumatakbo) & mahina sa drag fight, chances are you won't also win.
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Old July 27th, 2011, 05:48 PM   #19
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Guys just a pastime for discussion...for us OFW's to lessen the boredom..

I am not a fan of 1/4 RH 1/4 of that or 1/4 of this line etc etc....or whatever breeders or cockers might say.... blending. At the end of the day its the fighting style and good conditioning program of the feathered warriors that matters.

Gonna ask your opinion... Which one will you choose?

CHEERS,
I choose both solid bloodline and conditioning/pointing program
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Old August 9th, 2011, 12:37 PM   #20
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Re: Bloodlines or Fighting style and good conditioning

I agree solid bloodline and good feedings
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Old August 9th, 2011, 12:52 PM   #21
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Re: Bloodlines or Fighting style and good conditioning

If you look at even pure lines, they all have a history of blending of one sort or another in their history. I think it just comes down to not over doing it and using compatible strains with a lot of common sense. If your fowl are deep but slow or fast but have no endurance then you might look for a line to make up for a deficiency or you might just pick the faster type from your own deep lines or those with more endurance from your own speed lines. Up to you and there is no one absolute. It's all just percentages but I do agree you need good stock and a goal combined with common sense.

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Old August 9th, 2011, 01:09 PM   #22
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Re: Bloodlines or Fighting style and good conditioning

FOr me, fighting style first! Before the bloodline almost all the breeder have a own signature line but he always select the best fighter.... after the champion or win every one asking anong bloodline ang manok na ginamit mo......................

Fighting style parin........Ang the BEST.....
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Old August 9th, 2011, 01:25 PM   #23
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Re: Bloodlines or Fighting style and good conditioning

This is very interesting thread, but this thread should be at the proper forum either in chicken talk or usapang manuk forums..coz...this forum is sabong news...
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Old August 9th, 2011, 05:57 PM   #24
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Boss GG Crasher I agreed with you............
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