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Old July 5th, 2012, 12:46 PM   #5011
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gud day po maestro.. ask lng po ano fighting style ng black bonanza? ano po dis advantage sa bloodline n eto.. thanx
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Old July 5th, 2012, 01:10 PM   #5012
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Maestro,

May YL pair po ako na nagbigay sakin ng mga anak na more or less 85% winning at nagmulti winner p ang karamihan.. Dedo na po yung pair na yun at isang F1 na YL 2x derby winner at ang Full sis nito na blue leeg ang naiwan sakin.

Balak ko pong pagparisin yung magkapatid. pano po kaya step by step ang dapat kong gawin para malaki ang tyansa na makapagpalabas ako ng halos katulad nung F1?

eto po ay nasa isip ko...

F1 YL cock x F1 BL hen ( full bro & sis) = F2

F1 YL x F2 YL = F3 july 2012

F1 YL x F3 YL = F4 (almost F1 YL na po ba ito or kung kaya pa eh dapat na...) May 2013

F4 x F4 = F5 ( almost F1 at may uniformity inbreeding depression aside March 2014) Uubra po kaya ito??
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Old July 5th, 2012, 01:17 PM   #5013
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Maestro,

isa pa po... kung ikaw ang papipilin na gawing brood cock alin po pipiliin nyo para sa inbreeding?

BC 1 is a 6x winner 2 fstest kill event (1st & 5th) 2 in derby & 2 in Hackfyt..(Kelso-Hatch "DAW")

BC 2 is 2X derby winner (8 out of 9 na magkakapatid nanalo at multiwinners ang karamihan. sya po yung F1 I mentioned above)

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sir e4alnied!!kumusta an paderby dida sa aton?may entry k tabi?
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hehehe!!!ganaun pala maestro..,
salamat po maestro ng marami!!!!
tanong po ulit maestro
maestro at mga kasabong gandang hapon po!!!
maestro ask ko lang po kung pwde po ba mag inject na NORBROOK VIT A,D,E sa ating sisiw edad from 1-4 months?at panu po ang proper administration ito?drops po ba or injection sa petso?para po ksi too early naman po na mag inject sa petso nila at this age..ksi po baka masasaktan po ung mga sisiw..tnx po sa maestro ulit!!!
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==>purgahin at maglagay ng manok na katabi ng kulungan nya na matakaw kumain, kpag nakikita nyang kumakain ng mabilis ay makikipag sabayan din e2 na kakain sa oras ng pagpapakain...pde rin maglagay ng kulungan sa harap ng kanyang kulungan para may nakikitang inspirasyon.
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Old July 5th, 2012, 08:26 PM   #5017
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Maestro pa ID naman po nito White Legs po ito Maestro...... at kung sakali po ano nman po kaya magandang ipares sa inahin na ito..... Salamat

==>Claret na may kaunting hatch blood at Roundhead ang magandang ipares....
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Old July 5th, 2012, 08:31 PM   #5018
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good day po maestro phoenix101 ano po bang gamot sa isa kung sisiw maga po yong kanyang isang mata at may nakuha po akong parang muta sa loob, puti po ang kulay. wala naman po siyang sipon, naka range po siya dati at 3 months old na po siya ngayon...maraming salamat po!
==>linisin ang mata sa tumulong gripo at dry feeding muna for 1 month sa chickbooster na may halong antiobitic.
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Old July 5th, 2012, 08:38 PM   #5019
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MAESTRO PHOENIX..pasubscribe naman!tanong ko lang po kung ano magandang vit para fertile ang itlog ng inahin?
==>semilya po ng cock ang magfer fertilized sa egg ng hen...at para nman maging fertile ang broodcock at broodhen ay mag inject ng testosterone (matatandang brood materials)...kung mga bata pa ang materiales ay pde na ang b-complex at b12 injectable.
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Old July 5th, 2012, 08:40 PM   #5020
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gud day po maestro.. ask lng po ano fighting style ng black bonanza? ano po dis advantage sa bloodline n eto.. thanx
==>same as brownreds ang laro ng blackbonanza, aggressive e2 at lulusob agad sa kalaban at makikipagpalitan agad e2 ng maraming malalakas/pumuputok na palo...ang disadvantage ay mahina sa sugat at nasisira ang kanyang laro sa mga salto at abang maglaro.
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Maestro,

May YL pair po ako na nagbigay sakin ng mga anak na more or less 85% winning at nagmulti winner p ang karamihan.. Dedo na po yung pair na yun at isang F1 na YL 2x derby winner at ang Full sis nito na blue leeg ang naiwan sakin.

Balak ko pong pagparisin yung magkapatid. pano po kaya step by step ang dapat kong gawin para malaki ang tyansa na makapagpalabas ako ng halos katulad nung F1?

eto po ay nasa isip ko...

F1 YL cock x F1 BL hen ( full bro & sis) = F2

F1 YL x F2 YL = F3 july 2012

F1 YL x F3 YL = F4 (almost F1 YL na po ba ito or kung kaya pa eh dapat na...) May 2013

F4 x F4 = F5 ( almost F1 at may uniformity inbreeding depression aside March 2014) Uubra po kaya ito??
==>there are no other outside bloodline infusion sa personal breed mong hatch kya ang best mong gawin ay palabasin mo lang ang mga "yellow legged" at sila sila ang magpapares at sa inaakala mong magkakaroon ng deep inbreeding depression ay malayo e2 mangyari kung magiging maganda ang selection mo at feeding program mo......be strict sa breeding at cull mo lang ang mga rejects.
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Old July 5th, 2012, 08:50 PM   #5022
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==>linisin ang mata sa tumulong gripo at dry feeding muna for 1 month sa chickbooster na may halong antiobitic.
maraming salamat po maestro phoenix101...
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Old July 5th, 2012, 09:10 PM   #5023
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Good day po Sir Phoenix101. Magtatanong lang po sana sa outcome ng : pure Sweater BC x (.5 MS black- .25 Dan Gray- .25 MS Hatch) Hen.

at sa Pure Leiper BC x (.75 MS Hatch- .25 MS Grey) Hen.

Maraming salamat po sir.

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Old July 5th, 2012, 09:17 PM   #5024
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Maestro,

isa pa po... kung ikaw ang papipilin na gawing brood cock alin po pipiliin nyo para sa inbreeding?

BC 1 is a 6x winner 2 fstest kill event (1st & 5th) 2 in derby & 2 in Hackfyt..(Kelso-Hatch "DAW")

BC 2 is 2X derby winner (8 out of 9 na magkakapatid nanalo at multiwinners ang karamihan. sya po yung F1 I mentioned above)
==>Hatch-Kelso ang pipiliin ko highschool pa lang ako noon hanggang ngaun na matanda na ako ay nanalo pa rin ang linyadang e2 at kahit saan mo sya ipares ay naipapamana nya e2.

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==>Claret na may kaunting hatch blood at Roundhead ang magandang ipares....
Maraming Salamat Maestro....... yung Lemon Sandy pwede po kya ipares sa inahin na ito?

Ito po kayo ano po kaya Bloodline nito.... at kung sakali pwede ba ito ipares dito sa inahin?

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good day sir phoenix,

paki-ID naman po ng BC for traceability sana ng mga F1s nila, tnx.


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Old July 5th, 2012, 09:30 PM   #5027
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Mgandang gabi po sir phoenix ask ko lng po kung an0 ang detalye ng mga to, bguhan po kz cnsya n p0
1. Ano po ang "off beat"?
2. An0 po ang throwback?
3. Ano po ang linyada ng golden boy?
4. Me alam po b kau na gam0t sa luga ng broodcock?
5. San mganda e cr0ss ang irish whitehacle-jap n inahin, gold po ung tatay nila
6. An0 po ang jap n bl0odline?
7.san naman po pede e cr0ss ang HATCH/CLARET-ASIL/KELSO? Pede b balik cya sa nanay nya ung sa kapatid?
Madaming salamat po, cnsya n napadai tan0ng, bguhan po, thnx and get well soon...
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tanong po ulit maestro
maestro at mga kasabong gandang hapon po!!!
maestro ask ko lang po kung pwde po ba mag inject na NORBROOK VIT A,D,E sa ating sisiw edad from 1-4 months?at panu po ang proper administration ito?drops po ba or injection sa petso?para po ksi too early naman po na mag inject sa petso nila at this age..ksi po baka masasaktan po ung mga sisiw..tnx po sa maestro ulit!!!
==>drops ang gagamitin at trial ang error nlang kau sir at learn from experience, ang sobrang vitamins na nde kakailanganin ng katawan ng sisiw ay iipot din nya e2...observe sa dosage na ibibigay at adjustment nlang until makuha ang tamang administration.
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Sir phoenix maraming salamat po at sa ng create ng thread na eto. basa bsa lng po at nais itaas lng eto thread haha..more knowledge to come..
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Maraming Salamat Maestro....... yung Lemon Sandy pwede po kya ipares sa inahin na ito?

Ito po kayo ano po kaya Bloodline nito.... at kung sakali pwede ba ito ipares dito sa inahin?

==>claret-YLH (may kaunting asil) pdeng pde pero mas maganda ung nsa background na banderado ang ipares.

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good day sir phoenix,

paki-ID naman po ng BC for traceability sana ng mga F1s nila, tnx.


==>Hatch crossed to Cuban Hennie Asil....................
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Mgandang gabi po sir phoenix ask ko lng po kung an0 ang detalye ng mga to, bguhan po kz cnsya n p0
1. Ano po ang "off beat"?
2. An0 po ang throwback?
3. Ano po ang linyada ng golden boy?
4. Me alam po b kau na gam0t sa luga ng broodcock?
5. San mganda e cr0ss ang irish whitehacle-jap n inahin, gold po ung tatay nila
6. An0 po ang jap n bl0odline?
7.san naman po pede e cr0ss ang HATCH/CLARET-ASIL/KELSO? Pede b balik cya sa nanay nya ung sa kapatid?
Madaming salamat po, cnsya n napadai tan0ng, bguhan po, thnx and get well soon...
==>off-beat means nde sumasabay sa paluan, iilag cya kung aatake ang kalaban at mabilis siyang iikot para siya naman ang papalo , meron din talon-talon na kapag pumasok ang kalaban ay naka angat na e2 at ready na ang vertical cutting, meron din fake kung umatake at kung nakalipad na ang kalaban ay hihintayin nlang nya e2 sa baba at agad na pakakawalan ang kanyang maraming palo.
==>throwback means after creating ur own personal strain (combining different bloodlines and end up with 1 color and 1 kind of fighting style) and after a long period of time 5 years and more ay mayroong mga lumalabas na xerox copy ng original na materyales na ginamit mo, like for example gumamit ka ng white cock at red hatch hen and then ang created personal strain mo ay mga light red hatch at may halong puting pakpak (naging uniform/with quality e2 sa bawat napapalabas mo...and then after 5 years or more ay mayroong na naglalabas ng mga puti (e2 ngaun un mga throwback at galing sa origina white cock), nangyayari ang splitting of genes kung malalim na ang pag inbreed o ung tinatawag na deep inbreeding abnormality.
==>ang golden boy ay $5000 line Sweater.
==>may mga ibinebantang EENT na gamot sa mga poultry supply, ask nyo lang ung gamot sa tenga.
==>sa blueface hatch/Yellow legged McLean hatch (double hatch).
==>ang Japs ay galing Japan at ang tawag d2 ay Shamo (local japanese gamebird, well known sa trait na speed)
==>maganda cya ipares sa Sweater at Jumper Kelso.

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Kakmeyt DoubleSweeters unang una sanayin mo ang mga stags sa malamig na lugar, un masasanay sila sa malamig, madalas ang sparring session at kunin ang exact fighting weight at fighting style, subok-subok sa mga pang condition na gamot kung alin ang kanilang hiyang (ung nde antukin o dilat ang mata 2log ang diwa) at ikumpara kung may improvement simula magbigay ka ng gamot, sanayin din na tumapak sa lupa (sparring sa sariling maliit na ruweda), sanayin din na may tare sa paa at maglakad lakad para nde manibago sa araw ng laban, sanayin din sa gabi ang sparring session (masanay sa liwanag ng flourescent), sanayin na kumikig sa kalaban na nakadapa na, bumili ng mestizo talian ang mga paa at pakpak at ipagbugbog mo...dapat talaga sa oras ng laban alam ng handler nyo ang ginagawa at mapakilos ng tama ang stag...ang stag may sarili na e2ng pamamaraan upang uminit ang dugo pero lamang pa rin ang may gamot, nsa handler na ninyo talaga kung paano nya e2 mapapakilos ng tama, 1 month bonding moments between ng handler at stag para magkakilala sila ng lubusan if more than 1 month mas maganda at mas kabisado ng handler un stag, hwag papalitan un handler cya rin ang magbibitaw ng stag....ang stag masunurin pa yan at gagawin nya ang training na ibinigay mo, pero kung cock na cya matigas na ang ulo...more wing exercise kung sila ay flyers at kung grounders nman ay more legs exercise hehehe jogging kau sa umaga bitbit mo un magandang pullet para sumunod cya or un favorite nya ka sparring...kailangan tested at proven mo na condioning method na gagamitin mo at hwag gagaya sa mga post ng iba natin kakmeyts d2 iba-iba ang bloodline ng manok.
Salamat Sir sa mga tips nyo. Baka ipabasa ko ito sa kaibigan kong breeder dito..sa Leyte
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==>Hatch-Kelso ang pipiliin ko highschool pa lang ako noon hanggang ngaun na matanda na ako ay nanalo pa rin ang linyadang e2 at kahit saan mo sya ipares ay naipapamana nya e2.
Thank you very much po maestro
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Maestro Phoenix101 good day po sa inyo.

Ask ko lang po kung saan pwedeng i pares ang mga ito cock na ito:

1. Cardinal Kelso
2. 1/2 Gilmore x 1/2 sweater
3. Black mcrae

At ito pong hen ko na 1/2 sweater x 1/2 gilmore.

Maraming salamat po uli.
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Maestro Phoenix101 good day po sa inyo.

Ask ko lang po kung saan pwedeng i pares ang mga ito cock na ito:

1. Cardinal Kelso
2. 1/2 Gilmore x 1/2 sweater
3. Black mcrae

At ito pong hen ko na 1/2 sweater x 1/2 gilmore.

Maraming salamat po uli.
==>1. YLH McLean hen
==>2. Lemon hen
==>3. Hatch-Roundhead hen
==>4. Lemon cock
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==>Hatch-Kelso ang pipiliin ko highschool pa lang ako noon hanggang ngaun na matanda na ako ay nanalo pa rin ang linyadang e2 at kahit saan mo sya ipares ay naipapamana nya e2.

eh kung between 6x winner hatch-kelso or 1 time winner pure DF Sweater. aling po kaya magandang gawin brood cock.. malaki po ng konte yung hatch-kelso mga 10-9 at sa sparring eh mas magaling si hatch kelso

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meron akong BC na hiniram, str comb, BL, reddish black ang dibdib at mdyo dark hackle pinares po namin sa isang gold hen(carter gold looking)... my 6 silang offspring, 2 ang stag.. ksu ung isang stag d ko ma intindihan ang kulay ksi nung 2months... brown legged, mdyo ma itim ang palibot ng mata at ung color ng feather nya ay brown na mdyo light hackle at my resemblance sa isang redquill... pero nung ika 3months nya nag molt na sya at lumabas ang redorange feather sa dibdib nya.... my chance bang gnun na mkapalabas ng isang red quill looking? xD
18yrs old lng ksi ako at isang bagohan sa breeding...
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==>1. YLH McLean hen
==>2. Lemon hen
==>3. Hatch-Roundhead hen
==>4. Lemon cock
Sir Maestro Phoenix101,

Di po ba pdeng i cros ang cock na 1/2 sweater - 1/2 gilmore sa hen na 1/2 sweater - 1/2 gilmore din?
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