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Old August 9th, 2012, 03:03 PM   #5581
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maestro tanong lang po anong bloodline ang pinaka malakas pumalo?
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gud pm po maestro. Hoping nasa mabuti po kayong kalagayan..
Pa i.d. ko nga po tong mga stags maestro,cenxia na po at basa sa ulan .thanks and more power po..
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===>Kelso.................................
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gud pm, pre alex, ask ko lang pag binalik mo anakis (stag) sa ina, di ba magiging maliit ang result? at ano ng composition nun 50/50?, tapos yun maging produce dun balik sa ina ulit?
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==>F1 x mother = F2 3/4 henside x 1/4 cockside.......tignan mo muna ang naging parents ng broodhen....kung mayroong lahi ng maliit ay pdeng lumabas ang maliit sa F2 offsprings (3/4 x 1/4) at sa susunod pang palahi...kpag mababaw pa ang inbreeding ay expected ang recessive (unknown at pde maglabas ng anak na mamanahin pa sa lolo/lola) keysa dominant (known, alam mo na ibinabalik mo na e2 sa pagkapuro (inbreeding) cyempre kailangan maayos ang selection mo).

==>50 x 50 ay iyong mga F1 offsprings (1/2 henside x 1/2 cockside)....we always assume na mayroong 1/2 chromosome sa cockside at 1/2 chromosome sa henside....kpag ibinalik mo ang F1 (1/2 henside x 1/2cockside) sa ina ay e2 ung mga F2 (3/4 henside x 1/4 cockside).

==>e2 parekoy umaatake ulit ang gout athritis ko but no worries dahil may medication naman ako...am busy breeding dogs nowadays at e2 muna ang hobby ko...dahil binawalan ako ni kumander na mag parami ulit ng manok.

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maestro tanong lang po anong bloodline ang pinaka malakas pumalo?
==>asil kaya nagustuhan ng mga american breeders ng roundead at hatch...ilan sa sikat na bone crusher ay ang cowan roundhead at walton hatch.

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gud pm po maestro. Hoping nasa mabuti po kayong kalagayan..
Pa i.d. ko nga po tong mga stags maestro,cenxia na po at basa sa ulan .thanks and more power po..
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==>1. McLean Hatch/Frost Grey
==>2. Hatch-Roundhead
==>3. Cuban Hennie/Roundhead
==>4. Roundhead-Claret/Brownred
==>5. Brownred/Kelso-Gold

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sir Phonix medyo out sa topic pero nabanggit ninyo na nagpapalahi kayo ng ASO ano ba ang palahi ninyo dyan na magandang gawing guwardiya sa manukan.
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==>F1 x mother = F2 3/4 henside x 1/4 cockside.......tignan mo muna ang naging parents ng broodhen....kung mayroong lahi ng maliit ay pdeng lumabas ang maliit sa F2 offsprings (3/4 x 1/4) at sa susunod pang palahi...kpag mababaw pa ang inbreeding ay expected ang recessive (unknown at pde maglabas ng anak na mamanahin pa sa lolo/lola) keysa dominant (known, alam mo na ibinabalik mo na e2 sa pagkapuro (inbreeding) cyempre kailangan maayos ang selection mo).

==>50 x 50 ay iyong mga F1 offsprings (1/2 henside x 1/2 cockside)....we always assume na mayroong 1/2 chromosome sa cockside at 1/2 chromosome sa henside....kpag ibinalik mo ang F1 (1/2 henside x 1/2cockside) sa ina ay e2 ung mga F2 (3/4 henside x 1/4 cockside).

==>e2 parekoy umaatake ulit ang gout athritis ko but no worries dahil may medication naman ako...am busy breeding dogs nowadays at e2 muna ang hobby ko...dahil binawalan ako ni kumander na mag parami ulit ng manok.
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Pa ID lang po ulit Sir Phoenix101,
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Maestro gud pm, of all the kelso blood line ano po ang personal na type ng kelso ang pipiliin nyo para sa inyong manokan?

thanks po,
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==>Lemon/Sweater-Kelso.........................................
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Maestro gud pm, of all the kelso blood line ano po ang personal na type ng kelso ang pipiliin nyo para sa inyong manokan?

thanks po,
==>1. Walter Kelso
==>2. McLanahan Kelso
==>3. Cardinal Club Kelso
==>4. Jumper Kelso

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==>asil kaya nagustuhan ng mga american breeders ng roundead at hatch...ilan sa sikat na bone crusher ay ang cowan roundhead at walton hatch.
maraming salamat po maestro...................
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sir Phonix medyo out sa topic pero nabanggit ninyo na nagpapalahi kayo ng ASO ano ba ang palahi ninyo dyan na magandang gawing guwardiya sa manukan.
e2 ung palahi na nasa province salbahe sa tao at manok kaya laging naka kulong....natatakot pumasok ang magnanakaw kung M16 at shotgun ang hawak mo.




e2 ung palahi na nasa nova (pandak ang pedigree) friendly sa manok at hanggang tahol lang sa tao pdeng nakawala lng...handa mo lang ung baril mo at bala na ang hahabol sa magnanakaw.


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sir,

may 2 ako stag pagkatapos ibitaw namimilay tapos pag nakapagpahinga di na namimilay pag ibinitaw ulit namiilay 5 months lang unang bitaw nila ano kaya dahilan bakit namimilay,ano po ba ang dapat gawin para mawala ang pamimilay,sayang po bakbakan banded po ito.

maraming salamat,

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sir Phoenix ayos naman pala yang mga Pedigree ng mga aso mo ha,ha malulusog sila at magaganda . mas ok yung matahol lang sya pambulabog sa mga gustong pumasok na tao sa manukan.
baka kung yung matapang at makawala problema sa mga bata at manok ,baka naman pwedeng turuan habang maliit pa ,
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e2 ung palahi na nasa province salbahe sa tao at manok kaya laging naka kulong....natatakot pumasok ang magnanakaw kung M16 at shotgun ang hawak mo.

Sir PHOENNIX101, anong Blood Lines yang salbahe sa tao. Small, Medium, or High Station ba siya?
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Old August 10th, 2012, 08:11 AM   #5597
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sir,

may 2 ako stag pagkatapos ibitaw namimilay tapos pag nakapagpahinga di na namimilay pag ibinitaw ulit namiilay 5 months lang unang bitaw nila ano kaya dahilan bakit namimilay,ano po ba ang dapat gawin para mawala ang pamimilay,sayang po bakbakan banded po ito.

maraming salamat,

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==>check nyo po muna sir kung may mga pasa sa hita, kung wla ay maaaring sanhi na e2 ng heat stroke last summer (mild stroke kaya nde namatay at paralysis lamang) na nde nyo lang gaanong napapansin....probiotics at vitamins po muna cya at ipahinga ng 2 months (no sparring at pde ang walking exercise (free range) at masahe sa legs).....check din kung may panlalabo ng mata at pagbaba ng timbang baka mareks disease na e2, kadalasan kc na matapos ang bagyo/baha ay umaatake ang virus sa ating manukan dala ng ibang hayop gaya ng malaking daga at lamok.
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e2 ung palahi na nasa province salbahe sa tao at manok kaya laging naka kulong....natatakot pumasok ang magnanakaw kung M16 at shotgun ang hawak mo.

Sir PHOENNIX101, anong Blood Lines yang salbahe sa tao. Small, Medium, or High Station ba siya?
==> dominant ang Medium station (multi crossbred kc ang nanay) at swertehan lang kung maglabas ng isang medium to high (police dog ) at high station (rottweiler )...madali lang cla matuto kung since birth ay maganda na ang bonding/training na ibibigay.
==>kung pandak ang umaasawa ay nagiging pandak at medium karamihan ang anak na lumalabas at ganun pa rin ang medium to high at high station swertehan nlang ang isa na lalabas na hawig ng police dog o hawig ng rottweiler na matangkad...nde ko pa gaano gamay ang linebreeding, crossbreeding at hybrid sa aso...i tried before siberian husky crossed sa ibang breed ng aso pero not successful at ganun din sa Japanese Spitz...may mga breed pala ng aso na nde basta pde ipaasawa sa ibang lahi ng aso, kailangan close relative...unlike sa manok na pde ang crossbred at hybrid sa ibang linyada ng manok.

....Cyencia na po kakmeyts sa off-topic at needed din po kc ang aso sa manukan, maganda kung magpalitan din ng experience sa pagpapapalahi ng aso.

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[QUOTE=phoenix101;4194764]e2 ung palahi na nasa province salbahe sa tao at manok kaya laging naka kulong....natatakot pumasok ang magnanakaw kung M16 at shotgun ang hawak mo.

e2 ung palahi na nasa nova (pandak ang pedigree) friendly sa manok at hanggang tahol lang sa tao pdeng nakawala lng...handa mo lang ung baril mo at bala na ang hahabol sa magnanakaw.

pinatawa mo ko dito maestro...

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sir ask ko lang kung ilang weeks or months ang interval bago ko salangan ng ibang Bcock yung pullet ko (multiple partner) i want to use only this pullet kasi almost 100% ng anak niya nananalo. multiwinner pa. black yung pullet mag infuse sana ako ng sweatr,RH,kelso or any suggestion kung anong Bline ang bagay sa kanya to upgrade para sa classA cock ang mailabas niya.
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sir ask ko lang kung ilang weeks or months ang interval bago ko salangan ng ibang Bcock yung pullet ko (multiple partner) i want to use only this pullet kasi almost 100% ng anak niya nananalo. multiwinner pa. black yung pullet mag infuse sana ako ng sweatr,RH,kelso or any suggestion kung anong Bline ang bagay sa kanya to upgrade para sa classA cock ang mailabas niya.
==>ang broodcock ay mayroong 16 days na buhay ang kanyang semilya sa loob ng bahay itlogan ng broodhen, mas cgurado ang 1 month interval bago salangan ng bagong broodcock (nsa iyo na rin kung needed pa ang additional 1 month para sa magandang preparation bago isalang ang broodcock)....blacks usually starts with Hatch infusion at bahala kana sa susunod kung Boston Roundhead or Sweater ang ipapares nandiyan kc ang genes ng early maturing at gameness (before black + hatch + whitehackle para matibay e2, it's ur choice kung susundan mo pa e2 or direct kna agad sa roundhead at sweater after ng infusion mo ng hatch sa iyong black).

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maestro gud day po!!!
pa id po sana nito at kung anu po ang fighting style nila at saan cla maganda e mate po..thank you po maestro!!!




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sir phoenix101 ask ko lng po kung ano-ano at alin ang dapat unahin na mga gamot na pangbakuna at hindi po ba ito nakakaapekto sa mga nakasalang na breeders?..2weeks na nag uulan pati sa laguna at meron ako stag at pullet na nalumpo dahil sa lamig ng panahon at ang sabi ng frend ko magbakuna daw ako ng MAREK sa mga sunod na palahi ko..hindi po kasi ako nagbabakuna matira matibay pero nitong huli maraming nalagas sa palahi ko kaya need ko po advice nyo..salamat po.
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==>F1 x mother = F2 3/4 henside x 1/4 cockside.......tignan mo muna ang naging parents ng broodhen....kung mayroong lahi ng maliit ay pdeng lumabas ang maliit sa F2 offsprings (3/4 x 1/4) at sa susunod pang palahi...kpag mababaw pa ang inbreeding ay expected ang recessive (unknown at pde maglabas ng anak na mamanahin pa sa lolo/lola) keysa dominant (known, alam mo na ibinabalik mo na e2 sa pagkapuro (inbreeding) cyempre kailangan maayos ang selection mo).

==>50 x 50 ay iyong mga F1 offsprings (1/2 henside x 1/2 cockside)....we always assume na mayroong 1/2 chromosome sa cockside at 1/2 chromosome sa henside....kpag ibinalik mo ang F1 (1/2 henside x 1/2cockside) sa ina ay e2 ung mga F2 (3/4 henside x 1/4 cockside).

==>e2 parekoy umaatake ulit ang gout athritis ko but no worries dahil may medication naman ako...am busy breeding dogs nowadays at e2 muna ang hobby ko...dahil binawalan ako ni kumander na mag parami ulit ng manok.
lotsa tnxs! pre, ngatz lang lagi..wag kakain ng bawal sa gout, bawal din ang beer pre, jijiji, so dog ka pala busy ngayon, ako din meron kya lang pulos toy dog, pomeranian, dashund at chuawa2, pass muna ako sa pitbull, lakas kumain e!
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pa id po sana nito at kung anu po ang fighting style nila at saan cla maganda e mate po..thank you po maestro!!!




==>1. Brownred-Hatch-Lemon - grounder na off-beat, single (vertical cutter) to multiple stroker sa baba ....gilmore at sweater ang ipares.
==>2. Kelso-YLH - flyer at grounder na multiple stroker....roundhead at sweater ang ipares.
==>3. Black-Hatch-Lemon - grounder at speed na may multiple stroke.... gilmore at sweater na ipares.
==>4. McLeanHatch-Hulsey Lemon Grey.....flyer at grounder...smart at multiple stroker...Kelso at Sweater ang ipares.

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sir phoenix101 ask ko lng po kung ano-ano at alin ang dapat unahin na mga gamot na pangbakuna at hindi po ba ito nakakaapekto sa mga nakasalang na breeders?..2weeks na nag uulan pati sa laguna at meron ako stag at pullet na nalumpo dahil sa lamig ng panahon at ang sabi ng frend ko magbakuna daw ako ng MAREK sa mga sunod na palahi ko..hindi po kasi ako nagbabakuna matira matibay pero nitong huli maraming nalagas sa palahi ko kaya need ko po advice nyo..salamat po.
==>NCD B1B1
==>NCD La Sota (booster shot)
==>anti IBD vaccine
==>Anti-fowl pox vaccine
==>Anti-mareks vaccine
==>Anti-coryza vaccine
........consult vet. med. for proper administration...it could harm ur brood materials kung nde maayos ang ginagawa pdeng magkaroon ng hybrid virus gya ng "Viteria" sa matapon na live vaccine at mas mahirap mabigyan ng lunas...nde na po eepekto ang anti-mareks sa mga tinamaan na naka recover carrier na e2 for life.

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==> dominant ang Medium station (multi crossbred kc ang nanay) at swertehan lang kung maglabas ng isang medium to high (police dog ) at high station (rottweiler )...madali lang cla matuto kung since birth ay maganda na ang bonding/training na ibibigay.
==>kung pandak ang umaasawa ay nagiging pandak at medium karamihan ang anak na lumalabas at ganun pa rin ang medium to high at high station swertehan nlang ang isa na lalabas na hawig ng police dog o hawig ng rottweiler na matangkad...nde ko pa gaano gamay ang linebreeding, crossbreeding at hybrid sa aso...i tried before siberian husky crossed sa ibang breed ng aso pero not successful at ganun din sa Japanese Spitz...may mga breed pala ng aso na nde basta pde ipaasawa sa ibang lahi ng aso, kailangan close relative...unlike sa manok na pde ang crossbred at hybrid sa ibang linyada ng manok.

....Cyencia na po kakmeyts sa off-topic at needed din po kc ang aso sa manukan, maganda kung magpalitan din ng experience sa pagpapapalahi ng aso.
maestro magandang araw! four years na rin akong nagbi-breed ng golden retriever parang gusto ko ng i-give-up kasi grabi ang expenses as compare sa pagmamanok. sa bakuna palang grabe na plus dog food plus regular check-up sa vet pero yung market nya hindi ganun sa manok na madaling i-dispose. para ka na rin nagpapalaki ng bata ang expenses sa pagbi-breed ng aso.
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==>NCD B1B1
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==>anti IBD vaccine
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==>Anti-mareks vaccine
==>Anti-coryza vaccine
........consult vet. med. for proper administration...it could harm ur brood materials kung nde maayos ang ginagawa pdeng magkaroon ng hybrid virus gya ng "Viteria" sa matapon na live vaccine at mas mahirap mabigyan ng lunas...nde na po eepekto ang anti-mareks sa mga tinamaan na naka recover carrier na e2 for life.
maraming salamat po sir phoenix sa pagsagot nyo sa tanong ko..hen hatch po kasi ginagawa nmin kaya mahirap po magbakuna ng hindi sabay sabay ang pisa..
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Old August 10th, 2012, 05:32 PM   #5609
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Re: MAESTRO PHOENIX101

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==>1. Brownred-Hatch-Lemon - grounder na off-beat, single (vertical cutter) to multiple stroker sa baba ....gilmore at sweater ang ipares.
==>2. Kelso-YLH - flyer at grounder na multiple stroker....roundhead at sweater ang ipares.
==>3. Black-Hatch-Lemon - grounder at speed na may multiple stroke.... gilmore at sweater na ipares.
==>4. McLeanHatch-Hulsey Lemon Grey.....flyer at grounder...smart at multiple stroker...Kelso at Sweater ang ipares.
MARAMI PONG SALAMAT MAESTRO SA INYUNG PAGTUGON..Ngayun alam ko na po ang aking palahi...

Maestro sa grey po pwede po ang Cardinal Kelso na ipares?at pde din po sya epares sa black na inahin?at anu po ang fighting style nila?

MORE POWER PO MAESTRO AT GUD HEALTH PO!!!

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Old August 10th, 2012, 07:47 PM   #5610
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Maestro salamat po sa pag tugon, maari po bang malaman kung ano ang fighting style bawat line na ito?

At ang ganda po ng picture ng white sa avatar nyo, ano po ang blood
line nya sir?


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==>2. McLanahan Kelso
==>3. Cardinal Club Kelso
==>4. Jumper Kelso[/QUOTE]
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